Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

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This hambuger eating pig, like Lind-gay graham, thinks he will live on forever. He has still a lot of fantasies, defeating Iran, Cuba, conquering Greenland, taxing Hormuz, but the clock is ticking as well, he has 2,5 years to go.

Hopefully we'll see a 3 month blockade of Hormuz and Bab-al-Mandab to destroy his second term and weaken USA.

 

[Pakistan First]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

Will you accept paying the Americans a 20% toll versus a 1-2% toll that the Iranians are asking for?

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[shapurzolaktaf]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.

Agreements/MOU's with west are fake and void, no western country follows any agreement. North-Korea and Russia know this. Only way to exit the deadlock with west is thermo-nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and Hypersonic ICBMs.

 

[Flotilla]

All previous reports of China supplying Iran in the middle of a war have proven to be incorrect, and I suspect this one will be too.

There is no evidence that China has provided any radar & air defense equipment to then, or now... This twitter post handle is unreliable on top aswell..

The picture of airframes of Shaheds in a building that you criticized correctly because geolocalization is a proof of Chinese help. Irán assembled their Shaheds in honeycomb airframes but Chinese did in poliestirene plastic, which is extremely cheaper and easy to produce. Those airframes came from China I am pretty sure as I saw before a Chinese assembly line of Shaheds with this injected plastic airframes. I am pretty sure but don't find the videos.

 

[tsunset]

If Iran can't develop nukes, at least start a chemical and bacteriological weapon program

Same efficacity as nukes and easier to make, requires no big facility and can kill even more people than nukes

 

[Meengla]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

Yes, this is what Trita Parsi also recently said: Iran could have sent a message to those sea captains in a different way than hitting with lethal force. He also said that America's reaction to that was also too much.

 

[Flotilla]

Seems true, really bad move by the UK, very short sighted

UK government proscribes Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps

Shabana Mahmood will use new powers to ban support for the group, which has been linked to death threats and intimidation on British soil.

www.bbc.co.uk

British people are extremely stupid.

They got outside of the EU because they hated UE burocracy and agenda.

They got a drop of 4.5% gross national rent just to adopt US international agenda.

Saudis at least got a donkey for King by divine right, but British people choosed theirs democratically.

They did the same with Palestine Action just to understand that maybe 70% of British people still support Palestine Action.

And I am pretty sure another 60 or more pertentage of British people have better oppinion of IRGC than US armed force.

These contradictions will grind British Kingdom in few years.

Anyway you can see similar trends in France or another parts of Europe. What a European patriot can still be supporting US?. Just a stupid.

 

[Watandar]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.

Maybe. I think the Omani route attempts show that the US never intended to implement the MoU in spirit and was merely using all the negotiations and documents process to weaken Iran and re-arm itself. That follows the same pattern we saw last year and this year where the US and Israel attacked during negotiations. Trump is corrupt compromised and unstable.

I am now thinking this whole conflict ends only when the US runs out of precision weapons and interceptors.

 

[Immortals]

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[tsunset]

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So far all he is taking is missile shots on his ****hole bases

 

[OldTwilight]

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Also , reformers wives. Although those backstabbing cuckolds are ok with this

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Iranian grandmothers in the USA: terump we love you tank you kiss kiss tv

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Also , reformers wives. Although those backstabbing cuckolds are ok with this

We dont have reformers/conservatives. Now we've 2 group of politicians in Iran, anti-nuke and pro-nuke. Anti-Nuke Iranians would be ok to drive their wifes to the address of centcom generals. They could have said the fatwa is dead after the killing of the leader. They didnt. So the cuckery continues after 28 februari.

 

[Pakistan First]

My guess is considerations on controlling escalation ladder, because longevity of war harms the collective GCC and West more than they can stomach. Also you cannot let things go out of hand, India and Pakistan followed a similar pattern for those few days

The prolonged war effects Iran the most. The biggest 3 GCC countries do not rely at SOH anymore. KSA, UAE, Oman.

UAE produced the record highest oil last month. Its now entirely using pipelines to avoid SOH. Same with KSA. and US literally don't care much if SOH remains closed for extended period of time.

https://www.reuters.com/business/en...pec-exit-ship-tracking-data-shows-2026-06-30/

The maximum effect is on Iran which cannot sell anything at all and on top facing relentless bombing campaign. Also if the two sides are unable to find a middle ground then NATO will eventually join the United States. US can also bring more carrier groups and marines to take hold of portions of Iranian territory at southern coast.

Right now, Iranian strategy is using underground / hardened missile bases. But to retake the territory captured by US forces then the Iranian land forces will have to come out in large numbers. How its going to play out when enemy fighter jets and bombers have near impunity in skies. The air power can annihilate any scale of ground forces without air cover. Small example was seen when everyone witnessed how US rescued its pilots from Iranian territory and we also saw how US apache helicopters and a tanker aircraft was flying uncontested in Iranian airspace.