Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Watandar said:
Iranian control of the Strait and collection of fees as a form of reparations has already been agreed to in the MoU.
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Could you please provide the number of the relevant Article of the MoU that supports your claim? Thanks.
 
Watandar said:
Iranian control of the Strait and collection of fees as a form of reparations has already been agreed to in the MoU. Reference the article my previous post.

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Take the time to read this article. It explains the MoU and why the conflict has resumed perfectly. I have highlighted the most important parts in red.

How Trump Failed to Secure the Strait of Hormuz in His Iran Deal​

President Trump signed an agreement that Iran said gave it control of the waterway — and global energy supplies. Now, Iran’s military is violently asserting authority.

For two months, under a quiet arrangement with the U.S. Navy, commercial tankers turned off their transponders to avoid detection by Iran as they crossed the perilous Strait of...
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No, they were not agreed. There was point added in memorandum which talks about future discussion on the management of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz is opened to all and it was agreed in 14 points memorandum.
 
Keeping Israel out of war is the most smartest move by DT.

Now, it's Iran against Arabs and Arab with Arab themselves. Isreal is sitting and watching the show and getting amazed. Perhaps he will enter the ring once the job is almost done.
 
bafxet said:
Keeping Israel out of war is the most smartest move by DT.

Now, it's Iran against Arabs and Arab with Arab themselves. Isreal is sitting and watching the show and getting amazed. Perhaps he will enter the ring once the job is almost done.
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It’s also smart for Iran. We can focus on the U.S. bases in the Arab countries first and degrade the U.S. air defence network before going after Israel later.
 
Master Chief said:
I'm not saying I believe this random twitter post. But it does present us with an interesting case study.

Why does Iran simply not stay quiet and execute its plan and then either: (a) retrospectively explain what it's done, or even (b) deny having done it (to create at least some minor confusion via the perception of false flagging by Israel)?

For a weaker party in an asymmetric war, to announce every minor escalatory step well in advance is rather amateurish. I don't recall such behaviour in an asymmetric war between nation states ever.

USA can certainly play this game of making x,y,z generalised threat and then following through on it. Iran cannot match USA in this particular game.
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For a layman, it'd look like Iranians want to make a new deal, hence they announce their threats in advance and Iranian airplane carrying unknown delegation landed in Qatar few hours go. Unlike Ukranians, which silently destroys 100+ ships in a matter of 10 days in sea of Azov.
 
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Persian Gulf said:
It’s also smart for Iran. We can focus on the U.S. bases in the Arab countries first and degrade the U.S. air defence network before going after Israel later.
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That's not good enough, even from Iran own perspective.
 
This time orange bufoon ain't bluffing looks like. They are really hitting irans power infrastructure.
 
Persian Gulf said:
It’s also smart for Iran. We can focus on the U.S. bases in the Arab countries first and degrade the U.S. air defence network before going after Israel later.
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Isreal is still indirectly involved. Or who knows it's the isreali jets that are firing missiles into Iran. It's a smart move by isreal to know acknowledge it and to avoid Irani missiles in isreal.
Isreal can anytime go into war with isreal on US order. It's a lapdog after all.
 
Sal12 said:
No, they were not agreed. There was point added in memorandum which talks about future discussion on the management of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz is opened to all and it was agreed in 14 points memorandum.
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Future discussion will be about how Iran will manage the Strait. The control of the Strait itself was ceded to Iran as part of the MoU. Read the article I posted.

The US has been violating the MoU since day one first with Lebanon, then continuing with threats and public insults and finally by encouraging ships to use the Omani route instead of the Iranian one. This means the US never intended to honor the MoU anyway and merely treated it as a tactical retreat to re-arm and attack. Iran realized this and has pre-empted the US, hence the latest Trump tantrum.
 
Persian Gulf said:
It’s also smart for Iran. We can focus on the U.S. bases in the Arab countries first and degrade the U.S. air defence network before going after Israel later.
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Exactly. Taking on ALL of the opposition at once is not a good strategy.

After all, we all were taught in school about the "divide and rule" concept the English used during their colonial times. If they can do it, so can Iran.
 
Watandar said:
The control of the Strait itself was ceded to Iran as part of the MoU. Read the article I posted.
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No, please provide the words from the MoU itself that support your claim.
 
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