Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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ShapurII
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He still thinks the US wants negotiations for reaching a deal. lmao
These people are absolutely retarded. There is no deal, there will be no deal with the Islamic regime in Iran unless the regime hands over everything to the US and Israel like the Arabs have done.
The US is using negotiations to keep Iran in a cycle of war-negotiations while the US and the world's economy pay almost nothing for breaking Iran. At the end of the day, it is the Iranian economy that is on the verge of collapse, not the US economy, not the Israeli economy, nor the European economies.
The USD has appreciated by close to 30% after signing the MoU. 30% in less than 60 days! They do not understand how destructive these cycles of negotiation-war are to the economy. The USD has appreciated by 300% in almost 2 years. Iran is getting closer to hyperinflation every year. The clock is ticking for Iran, not them.
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
I would agree with your diagnosis if I thought this cycle of war would continue beyond Trump.
It will not.
US public is fed up.
I tell you the first candidate who promises to stop the money to Israel - will win the next presidential election.
GoatsMilk
Registered Member
Race always comes into it with whites. The germans were called Huns during the war. The germans saw the slavs as asiatic savages. The americans saw the Russians as mongols.
So race will come into it and it will be about portraying the white nations they attack as being non-white.
When the white bosnians were being exterminated by the serbs, the Serbs called them Turks. And between the two, bosnians are whiter then serbs.
in war they dehumanise their enemy and the best way to get whites to hate others is to portray them as non white.
ShapurII
Trusted Member
Trump still has 2 more years to go, but that aside, I have already said that Trump has set the precedent of attacking Iran and killing the Supreme Leader of Iran with minimal cost. His legacy will be there even when he leaves the office.
Didn't Biden continue to violate the JCPOA and pursue maximum pressure after Trump left the office? Why? Because Trump had set the precedent that it can violate every red line that it wants with regard to Iran with next to zero cost. When Trump killed Gen. Soleimani, everybody in the US was panicking, even Trump himself, but when they realized that Iran could do nothing to establish deterrence, everything Iran had done in the last 20 years started to fall apart after that, and Iran's deterrence was never reestablished.
Even if we assume that the next US president will be 180 degrees different, the bipartisan policies of the US dictated mostly by billionaires and influential lobbies like AIPAC will remain the same. And now that Trump has exposed Iran's vulnerabilities, the US will never stop it. And 2 years later, Iran will be much weaker than it is now. We could very well run out of missiles and drones by then, but at least we know our missiles and drones will be severely depleted by then.
There will never be an anti-Israel president in the US in the near future. The whole US election system is rigged. Didn't the Democrats replace Bernie Sanders with Hillary Clinton even though Bernie had won the primary? Both Democrat and Republican candidates are carefully handpicked to follow the US bipartisan policies and serve Israel. And these policies regarding Iran will not change when the President changes and do not even depend on American votes.
Watandar
Trusted Member
Some US attacks to appease the UAE.
The U.S. missile attack on Greater Tunb island in the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday struck at the heart of a longstanding dispute between Iran and the United Arab Emirates.
Greater Tunb is one of a string of islands in the strait that Iran uses to control shipping through the Persian Gulf. The outposts enable Iran to blanket the narrow shipping lanes with drones, antiship missiles and fast-attack speedboats.
Beyond its strategic utility, Greater Tunb holds historical and political significance for Iran. Its forces seized control of the island, along with the islands of Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa, from the United Arab Emirates in 1971.
More than half a century later, the U.A.E. continues to designate the islands “occupied.” The Emirates claim that since the 18th century, the islands had belonged to the Qasimi tribe, the rulers of two emirates that became part of the U.A.E. at its formation in 1971.
The U.A.E. says it has sought to negotiate with Iran since its invasion, and taken the matter to the International Court of Justice, to no avail.
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps has a presence on the island, though the number of its permanent inhabitants is unclear. In 2023, Iran began initiatives to lure more people to live on the islands and conducted military exercises in an apparent bid to reinforce its control of them.
Wednesday’s bombardment follows a pattern of U.S. attacks and threats on islands in the Persian Gulf during the war with Iran. President Trump has repeatedly threatened to take Kharg Island, home to Iran’s biggest oil terminal, which lies some 400 miles away from the Strait of Hormuz, near the northern end of the Persian Gulf. Any such U.S. operation would require American ships to take a risky journey across the whole of the Persian Gulf.
U.S. Strikes Hit Tiny, Disputed Island in Strait of Hormuz
The U.S. missile attack on Greater Tunb island in the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday struck at the heart of a longstanding dispute between Iran and the United Arab Emirates.
Greater Tunb is one of a string of islands in the strait that Iran uses to control shipping through the Persian Gulf. The outposts enable Iran to blanket the narrow shipping lanes with drones, antiship missiles and fast-attack speedboats.
Beyond its strategic utility, Greater Tunb holds historical and political significance for Iran. Its forces seized control of the island, along with the islands of Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa, from the United Arab Emirates in 1971.
More than half a century later, the U.A.E. continues to designate the islands “occupied.” The Emirates claim that since the 18th century, the islands had belonged to the Qasimi tribe, the rulers of two emirates that became part of the U.A.E. at its formation in 1971.
The U.A.E. says it has sought to negotiate with Iran since its invasion, and taken the matter to the International Court of Justice, to no avail.
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps has a presence on the island, though the number of its permanent inhabitants is unclear. In 2023, Iran began initiatives to lure more people to live on the islands and conducted military exercises in an apparent bid to reinforce its control of them.
Wednesday’s bombardment follows a pattern of U.S. attacks and threats on islands in the Persian Gulf during the war with Iran. President Trump has repeatedly threatened to take Kharg Island, home to Iran’s biggest oil terminal, which lies some 400 miles away from the Strait of Hormuz, near the northern end of the Persian Gulf. Any such U.S. operation would require American ships to take a risky journey across the whole of the Persian Gulf.
Pakistan Space Agency
SpeedLimited
Why don't you read the actual MOU instead of opinion pieces?Iranian control of the Strait and collection of fees as a form of reparations has already been agreed to in the MoU. Reference the article my previous post.
Where does it say in the MOU that Iran can start charging tolls and attack commercial ships as soon as the MOU is signed?
Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America.
- The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, and their allies in the current war, by signing this MoU (Memorandum of Understanding), declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final Deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.
- The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.
- The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America commit to negotiating and achieving the final Deal, in maximum 60 days extendable with mutual consent.
- Immediately upon the signing of this MoU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final Deal.
- Upon the signing of this MoU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start and, considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz, in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
- The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 Billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of final Deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
- The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, i.e. IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final Deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
- The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon, in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven with the minimum methodology to be down blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two Parties also agree to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final Deal. The final Deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
- Pending the final Deal, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America agree to maintain the status quo;the Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.
- The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU and until the termination of sanctions, U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
- The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Upon the implementation of this MoU, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiation. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
- The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MoU and the future compliance of the final Deal.
- After signing this MoU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1,4,5,10 and 11 of this MoU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America will start negotiations regarding the final Deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
- The final Deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.
19/06/2026: The ‘Islamabad MoU’ raising hopes for peace in Mideast: Dawn
BananaRepublic
Trusted Member
Hillary lost in part due to her rabid support for Israel.
Ditto Biden.
Trump managed to con the public because he didn’t start any wars in his first term and ran away from Israel.
Trump ran was a “peace President”.
US public has turned.
It will have consequences for Israel.
Pakistan Space Agency
SpeedLimited
The USAF is conducting airstrikes on Iran daily from Israel.
That's where the American Air Force fighter aircraft are taking off from.
Brother @RescueRanger mentioned earlier that, yesterday the US had attacked Iran with 300 fighter aircraft.
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