Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

We will have to "wait and see" (TM)

Hey, you trademarked MY line!

You can have it, O Wise Meme Lord!

 

[ShapurII]

Now, for the rest of your post, please note there is a post above saying clearly that allowing the use of military bases close to Makkah places Makkah itself at risk from an Iranian attack due to its proximity.

That isn't my post, and I disagree with it entirely. There's a 70km distance. This is no longer 1980s where people fire Scud-B missiles that can go off by tens of kilometers lol Even Ansarallah is in possession of missiles with a CEP of less than 20m. Nice try to deflect though.

That logic works both ways, of course, as I mentioned, that close proximity of military targets to civilian assets places them at risk.

Tell that to your Army that has filled the Green Zone of Baghdad with military targets. A region known for being the seat of administrative and diplomatic buildings.

 

[VCheng]

Anything is possible right now.

That is the very nature of war - unpredictable.

Just imagine if Trump has a massive stroke, and its potential effects on this war. Or if the new Ayatollah is assassinated. Or any number of other such factors.

I find it amazing that people get upset when I say "wait and see".

 

[VCheng]

That isn't my post, and I disagree with it entirely.

Yet the post clearly says what I said it says.

Tell that to your Army that has filled the Green Zone of Baghdad with military targets.

Why? That makes it a fair target if Iran decides to attack it. Please go for it, if it helps Iran's war effort.

Fair is fair.

 

[ShapurII]

Yet the post clearly says what I said it says.

And February has 28 days and the sky is blue and therefore you are wrong and the US is evil.

Why? That makes it a fair target if Iran decides to attack it. Please go for it, if it helps Iran's war effort.

Fair is fair.

I'm sure Iran is less genocidal and criminal, and evil, than the US and if we ever decide to target those systems, we will make sure that parents will not be forced to evacuate their children from a hospital dedicated to kids with cancer.

You know, if it were the thread for the US perspective on war, your posts had already been deleted for "petty bickering" and you most likely would've already been thread-banned. Be thankful to @Persian Gulf that he's handling here quite well and professionally, unlike your friends on the other thread.

 

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[tsunset]

A February has 28 days and the sky is blue and therefore you are wrong and the US is evil.


I'm sure Iran is less genocidal and criminal, and evil, than the US and if we ever decide to target those systems, we will make sure that parents will not be forced to evacuate their children from a hospital dedicated to kids with cancer.

You know, if it were the thread for the US perspective on war, you had already been thread banned for petty bickering. Be thankful to @Persian Gulf that he's handling here quite well and professionally, unlike your friends on the other thread.

It doesn't matter

Iran at this point has to right to target anything belonging to the US, civilian or military, pre-warning or not

 

[Watandar]

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[VCheng]

I'm sure Iran is less genocidal and criminal, and evil, than the US

Fair enough. I will accept that statement at face value without contesting it.

Do you think that being less evil will help, or hinder, Iran in its present war?

 

[VCheng]

It doesn't matter

Iran at this point has to right to target anything belonging to the US, civilian or military, pre-warning or not

Absolutely agreed.

War is war.

Iran must fight as best as it can against an adversary that will do the same thing.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Any thoughts on what Trump will announce Thursday night during his address to the Nation? I am guessing making a case for ground forces?

apparently it’s something about Chinese interference in American elections. Not related to Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Even if the US/Israel hadn't, it would be unwise of Iran to not do it, if it believes that it can attain its desired results.

However, the absurdly dense arguments that are being presented here just for the sake of cheerleading one side, or the other, are reaching Indian levels of self-awareness.

Yeah, it’s not possible to reconcile with the MOU wording, at least during the first 60 days.

 

[VCheng]

apparently it’s something about Chinese interference in American elections. Not related to Iran.

As if Russia, or EU, or everyone's favorite Israel, or any number of other countries, do not do the same thing!

 

[ShapurII]

Do you think that being less evil will help, or hinder, Iran in its present war?

Rational and civilized countries should act less evil because if the values we humans have created for our societies fall apart, all of us will eventually suffer from its consequences in the long term.

That's why as humans we have reached the conclusion that even wars need to have rules. Of course, these rules can be violated but it will lead to more suffering for all sides in the long run.

 

[ShapurII]

Those are noble words indeed, but what is the answer to my simple question:

Do you think that being less evil will help, or hinder, Iran in its present war?

Reported for "petty bickering".