Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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This will have very deep, perhaps disturbing ramifications on the region.
Ali_Baba
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Through this act, Israel will gain full access to intelligence and data feeds that the USA gathers on Pakistan which Israel can share with India. This will create a lot of problems for that reason alone.
Should Pakistan stop sharing intelligence with the USA now given how that information will end up in Israel and India can learn what Pakistan is looking at, and how? Thereby learning of Pakistan capabilities?
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Mav3rick
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This is not mere innocence; it is the helplessness. Personally, I would like to arrest Trump and take him to the international court of justice. Personally, I would like to see severe justice carried out on Nathanyahu, his entire cabinet, the entire military of Israel and most of its population for the inhumanity they have committed over the decades. But I am helpless. My country is helpless. There is nothing 190 countries of the world can do when the US decides to go to war.
Your post is emotional and not practical. I can feel your post but do not understand what you want the weakest countries in the world to do about it. When the mightiest countries don't oppose or stop the US, what can the other weaker countries do? We did the best we could and played an instrumental role in bringing both sides to the negotiations. There is still hope.
Mav3rick
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I completely reject the insinuation because it is flatly contradicted by the timeline of events. The fact is, following the initial intense conflict that began in February, the US, Israel, and Iran agreed to a ceasefire on April 7 . While that temporary truce was fragile, it opened the door for intensive diplomacy. By June 14 the mediators successfully brokered a comprehensive Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), which was officially signed by the US, Iran and Pakistan as the mediator. It was all due to this MoU which formally lifted the maritime blockade on Iranian ports, allowed oil exports, and established a framework to fully end the war within 60 days. To ensure safe transit and bypass contested waters, the JMIC was also established which announced a widened shipping route on June 27, 2026, utilizing a specialized corridor hugging the Omani coastline—the "Omani clause" framework.
Throughout these months of stabilization, the region experienced an extended period of relative peace; even Israel had paused its daily operations in Lebanon. Diplomatic momentum was building daily as the parties engaged in quiet, backchannel framework talks in Switzerland. While President Trump frequently fired off inflammatory warnings on social media, this remained a battle of rhetoric rather than kinetic force, and Iran responded in kind while allowing the behind-the-scenes progress to continue.
Everything changed on July 6–7, 2026, when Iran shattered this month-long peace by launching unprovoked missile and drone attacks against three commercial vessels navigating the Omani transit corridor near the Strait of Hormuz. Iran had absolutely no legal authority to intercept them; the ships were operating entirely within their rights under the agreed-upon MoU framework. Even if Tehran believed a technical violation had occurred, the correct protocol was to submit the dispute to neutral arbitrators for a peaceful resolution. Instead, Iran chose immediate military aggression against civilian shipping. This is which started all the US military activity against Iran while the US declared the truce over. By choosing violence over arbitration, Iran crossed a critical red line that left the United States with no alternative: the U.S. had to respond kinetically to the Irani aggression, or risk completely losing its credibility on the global stage.
OldTwilight
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It won't be finished unless Iran become nuclear power with will to use nukes ...
Watandar
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Iran Rejects U.S. Cease-Fire Deal Presented by Iraqi Leader
The details of the proposal were not immediately clear, but Iranian officials said that it was the only offer on the table.Iran on Thursday rejected a cease-fire proposal from President Trump that was carried to Tehran by the Iraqi prime minister, according to Iranian and Iraqi officials. The failed mediation effort came as Mr. Trump was threatening to escalate the war and target Iran’s critical infrastructure.
The officials, who asked not to be identified because they were discussing sensitive national security issues, said Prime Minister Ali al-Zaidi’s trip to Iran followed his recent visit with Mr. Trump at the White House.
The details of the cease-fire proposal were not immediately clear. But Iranian officials said that it was the only offer on the table, and that their government was not interested in a temporary deal that left the question of control over the Strait of Hormuz unresolved.
Mr. al-Zaidi traveled to Tehran with a delegation of senior Iraqi officials and met with President Masoud Pezeshkian; Iran’s top negotiator, Brig. Gen. Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf; and its foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, according to local media reports.
Mr. Araghchi told state television that Iran and Iraq, which share a border, had mutual economic, political and security interests and close ties and that the visit was significant given the current circumstances in the region.
Mr. Araghchi said that Mr. al-Zaidi had shared his “views and impressions” from his trip to Washington, but that Tehran and Washington already had enough mediators. “The problem is not passing messages,” he said. “The problem is America’s outlook, which is illogical, greedy and controlling.”
Iran and the United States have steadily escalated tensions over the past few weeks, with American forces bombing military bases, as well as infrastructure like railroads, airports, bridges and seaports. Iran has launched strikes with ballistic missiles and drones on American military targets in the Middle East.
Two Iranian officials said that the country’s armed forces were anticipating — and preparing for — the possibility of the war expanding if Mr. Trump carries through with his threats to strike the capital of Tehran and critical infrastructure. If he does, the officials said, Iran will expand the fight regionally, including by striking Tel Aviv and asking its Houthi allies to close Bab al-Mandab, a strategic waterway in the Red Sea.
On Thursday in Tehran’s Azadi Square, where supporters of the government stage nightly pro-war rallies, a military vehicle paraded Iranian-made ballistic missiles pointing at the sky.
Watandar
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Finally an article on precision munitions and interceptor stockpile. It has many juicy details.
Washington — The rapid pace at which the U.S. is expending some of its most advanced air-defense interceptors and precision-guided weapons in the Middle East is a point of great tension inside the Trump administration as President Trump's war with Iran ratchets up again, according to U.S. military and intelligence officials familiar with internal assessments. And it's raising broader concerns about America's readiness for a potential conflict in the Indo-Pacific.
The dwindling stockpiles of defensive interceptors and long-range missiles have become a pressure point for top military and civilian leaders who are weighing the demands of the war with Iran against maintaining readiness to deter other adversaries, including China.
The U.S. officials, who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the topic, said the U.S. cannot sustain the rate at which it expended precision munitions early in the campaign against Iran.
The defense industrial base is not equipped to produce missiles rapidly enough to replenish munitions that have been fired or transferred to U.S. Central Command, which is overseeing the conflict, leaving inventories under mounting pressure even as military operations continue.
Interceptors are in heavy use to defend U.S. interests in the Gulf states, which house U.S. troops and are being targeted by Iranian drones and missiles.
One partner country told CBS News there is a need for a pause in fighting, particularly given the intensity of Iranian strikes that have been battering Kuwait and Bahrain. Kuwait said earlier this week that Iran struck its infrastructure, damaging electricity and desalination plants.
In an interview last month with "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied that there was any crisis with the stockpiles. He conceded that some munitions may take more time to produce than others, but he told Brennan, "We've got lots of them, we're building more than ever before."
"Our stockpiles are strong, and they will only get stronger in the future," Hegseth said.
But U.S. commanders have increasingly been shifting toward using more GPS-guided bombs fitted with Joint Direct Attack Munitions, or JDAM, guidance kits, along with Small Diameter Bombs, which are precision-glide weapons that can attack fixed targets at shorter ranges and can also be used in lieu of long-range standoff weapons.
Earlier in the conflict, U.S. forces frequently employed long-range cruise missiles such as the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, known as JASSM, and the Tomahawk Land Attack Missile. Those weapons remain in the arsenal, officials said, but are being used more sparingly.
In April, Adm. Samuel Paparo, the head of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that scaling up output of high-end systems such as the Tomahawk cruise missile or JASSM could take years, as defense companies work on expanding production lines.
"I think it will take one to two years for them to scale," said Paparo, whose responsibilities include preparing for any potential conflict in the Pacific region, including with China. "It won't be soon enough. There are finite limits to the magazine, and I have all the faith in the world that they're being employed judiciously."
Following the collapse of the ceasefire earlier this month, U.S. strikes have focused on targets closer to Iran's coastline, reducing the need for aircraft to penetrate deeper into Iranian territory, where they would face denser air-defense networks and a greater threat from surface-to-air missiles.
The U.S. officials told CBS News there are limited inventories of the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, the long-range missiles fired from the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, known as HIMARS, a truck-mounted launcher capable of firing precision rockets and missiles.
Concerns over certain munition inventories are not new. The Biden administration delayed giving ATACMS to Ukraine in part because drawing from those inventories could undermine U.S. military readiness, CBS News previously reported.
The U.S. has comparatively healthier supplies of the shorter-range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System, or GMLRS, which is also fired from the HIMARS launcher, the officials told CBS News, allowing commanders greater flexibility for targets within its range.
The most pressing concern involves air-defense interceptors, used to defend against cruise and ballistic missiles, aircraft and lethal drones, several sources said.
The U.S. has expended large numbers of Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, interceptors to defend against both ballistic missiles and drones, consuming inventories faster than industry can replace them.
To support operations in the Middle East, the Pentagon has shifted interceptor inventories from other regions, including stocks that had been prepositioned for the Indo-Pacific. Those transfers have left other combatant commands operating with thinner margins than military planners consider ideal, particularly as the U.S. seeks to deter Chinese military action around Taiwan and reassure allies across the Pacific.
Asked for comment, chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell told CBS News: "America's military is the most powerful in the world and has everything it needs to execute at the time and place of the President's choosing. We have executed multiple successful operations across combatant commands while ensuring the U.S. military possesses a deep arsenal of capabilities to protect our people and our interests."
In 2022, Elbridge Colby, who was a defense official during the first Trump administration and is now the undersecretary for policy at the Pentagon, summed up the choices confronting an American military stretched across the globe: "A missile used in Europe can't be used in Asia," he wrote in Time magazine.
He was commenting on the use of U.S. munitions in the war in Ukraine. But the latest stage of the American campaign against Iran has brought the same strategic dilemma into renewed focus.
A year later, Colby argued that weapons that could be useful for defeating a Chinese attack along the first island chain — a string of islands off China's coast extending from Japan, through Taiwan and the Philippines — should be reserved for that purpose. The concerns of U.S. officials about current stockpiles involve some of those same weapons.
During the ceasefire pause, a Center for Strategic and International Studies report said more than 1,000 Tomahawks and 1,100 JASSMs had been used and that replacement timelines were approaching four years. It said that supplies of air-defense interceptors are under even greater strain, as the U.S. burns through a significant share of prewar inventories of THAAD, SM-3 missiles and Patriots. These weapons face production timelines of up to five years.
Taken together, the numbers suggest that the central problem is not simply cost but time. Many of the weapons being fired in weeks or months cannot be replaced for years.
Rapid pace of interceptor and precision-guided weapons use worries Trump administration
Washington — The rapid pace at which the U.S. is expending some of its most advanced air-defense interceptors and precision-guided weapons in the Middle East is a point of great tension inside the Trump administration as President Trump's war with Iran ratchets up again, according to U.S. military and intelligence officials familiar with internal assessments. And it's raising broader concerns about America's readiness for a potential conflict in the Indo-Pacific.
The dwindling stockpiles of defensive interceptors and long-range missiles have become a pressure point for top military and civilian leaders who are weighing the demands of the war with Iran against maintaining readiness to deter other adversaries, including China.
The U.S. officials, who spoke to CBS News on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the topic, said the U.S. cannot sustain the rate at which it expended precision munitions early in the campaign against Iran.
The defense industrial base is not equipped to produce missiles rapidly enough to replenish munitions that have been fired or transferred to U.S. Central Command, which is overseeing the conflict, leaving inventories under mounting pressure even as military operations continue.
Interceptors are in heavy use to defend U.S. interests in the Gulf states, which house U.S. troops and are being targeted by Iranian drones and missiles.
One partner country told CBS News there is a need for a pause in fighting, particularly given the intensity of Iranian strikes that have been battering Kuwait and Bahrain. Kuwait said earlier this week that Iran struck its infrastructure, damaging electricity and desalination plants.
In an interview last month with "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied that there was any crisis with the stockpiles. He conceded that some munitions may take more time to produce than others, but he told Brennan, "We've got lots of them, we're building more than ever before."
"Our stockpiles are strong, and they will only get stronger in the future," Hegseth said.
But U.S. commanders have increasingly been shifting toward using more GPS-guided bombs fitted with Joint Direct Attack Munitions, or JDAM, guidance kits, along with Small Diameter Bombs, which are precision-glide weapons that can attack fixed targets at shorter ranges and can also be used in lieu of long-range standoff weapons.
Earlier in the conflict, U.S. forces frequently employed long-range cruise missiles such as the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, known as JASSM, and the Tomahawk Land Attack Missile. Those weapons remain in the arsenal, officials said, but are being used more sparingly.
In April, Adm. Samuel Paparo, the head of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that scaling up output of high-end systems such as the Tomahawk cruise missile or JASSM could take years, as defense companies work on expanding production lines.
"I think it will take one to two years for them to scale," said Paparo, whose responsibilities include preparing for any potential conflict in the Pacific region, including with China. "It won't be soon enough. There are finite limits to the magazine, and I have all the faith in the world that they're being employed judiciously."
Following the collapse of the ceasefire earlier this month, U.S. strikes have focused on targets closer to Iran's coastline, reducing the need for aircraft to penetrate deeper into Iranian territory, where they would face denser air-defense networks and a greater threat from surface-to-air missiles.
The U.S. officials told CBS News there are limited inventories of the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, the long-range missiles fired from the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, known as HIMARS, a truck-mounted launcher capable of firing precision rockets and missiles.
Concerns over certain munition inventories are not new. The Biden administration delayed giving ATACMS to Ukraine in part because drawing from those inventories could undermine U.S. military readiness, CBS News previously reported.
The U.S. has comparatively healthier supplies of the shorter-range Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System, or GMLRS, which is also fired from the HIMARS launcher, the officials told CBS News, allowing commanders greater flexibility for targets within its range.
The most pressing concern involves air-defense interceptors, used to defend against cruise and ballistic missiles, aircraft and lethal drones, several sources said.
The U.S. has expended large numbers of Patriot and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, interceptors to defend against both ballistic missiles and drones, consuming inventories faster than industry can replace them.
To support operations in the Middle East, the Pentagon has shifted interceptor inventories from other regions, including stocks that had been prepositioned for the Indo-Pacific. Those transfers have left other combatant commands operating with thinner margins than military planners consider ideal, particularly as the U.S. seeks to deter Chinese military action around Taiwan and reassure allies across the Pacific.
Asked for comment, chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell told CBS News: "America's military is the most powerful in the world and has everything it needs to execute at the time and place of the President's choosing. We have executed multiple successful operations across combatant commands while ensuring the U.S. military possesses a deep arsenal of capabilities to protect our people and our interests."
In 2022, Elbridge Colby, who was a defense official during the first Trump administration and is now the undersecretary for policy at the Pentagon, summed up the choices confronting an American military stretched across the globe: "A missile used in Europe can't be used in Asia," he wrote in Time magazine.
He was commenting on the use of U.S. munitions in the war in Ukraine. But the latest stage of the American campaign against Iran has brought the same strategic dilemma into renewed focus.
A year later, Colby argued that weapons that could be useful for defeating a Chinese attack along the first island chain — a string of islands off China's coast extending from Japan, through Taiwan and the Philippines — should be reserved for that purpose. The concerns of U.S. officials about current stockpiles involve some of those same weapons.
During the ceasefire pause, a Center for Strategic and International Studies report said more than 1,000 Tomahawks and 1,100 JASSMs had been used and that replacement timelines were approaching four years. It said that supplies of air-defense interceptors are under even greater strain, as the U.S. burns through a significant share of prewar inventories of THAAD, SM-3 missiles and Patriots. These weapons face production timelines of up to five years.
Taken together, the numbers suggest that the central problem is not simply cost but time. Many of the weapons being fired in weeks or months cannot be replaced for years.
BHAN85
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FUB
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Iran already is a nuclear power .
If they conduct a test , it gives the US to pretext to use nuclear weapons
FUB
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You have to step back and take a 30,000 feet-view. Why would the world’s only hegemon with over 400 bases abroad , 350 million people , one of the largest economies in the world need to share with an irrelevant country of 9 million people with zero resources?
They are 2% of the population and control all major levers of power here not because they are smart but because they are a ruthless mob. They kill, rape, pillage, and steal because the Americans are very naïve.
They select corrup immoral people and place them in government. through lawfare they are bilking the American taxpayer for trillions of dollars.
Where else in the world do you have a former Jewish stripper as a congresswoman?
The Jewish mob boss lady from Vegas buys a president and hires the American military as a as a rogue mercenary force.
Pakistan and Turkey are next . Israel is already threatening Turkey
on a weekly basis .Iran and Russia are fighting for humanity. Just like Iran, they want to break up Russia into 15 different countries.
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