Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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It’s clear Trump will bomb PickAxe mountain, declare victory, and sue for peace. Just like he did in the Fordow 2025 attack.

And then retreat until the next few weeks for another attack from behind ?
 
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This new and the foreign Ministry Lavrov answer it is indicative about Russian involvement.

And for sure China is doing his part also.
 
And then retreat until the next few weeks for another attack from behind ?
I agree. There are only two ways to break that vicious circle.

Either Netanyahu and Trump are eliminated—politically or physically.

Or the nuclear bomb is built.

But any agreement is merely a respite.
 
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Instead of chatting about houthi, saudi, oil and bla bla bla in this topic, concentrate on important thing. Your enemy are us, israel and its bases, aircrafts, air defenses
 
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Could be a hint of his meeting with Trump and Netanyahu in a few days time. There's a good possibility that Ukraine can be a party to this war soon.
 
China worships money and money is the biggest factor for China, they reduced their oil imports because oil was getting expensive, and they started digging into their strategic reserves, don't think it has anything to do with helping US bypass the hormuz blockade pressure.
Both things can be true.

China and USA are two main world powers, militarily and economically.

And they must have arrangements far from cameras.

People who think in terms of emotions or ideology won't never understand.

People who think in material, economic terms will understand and that kind of people are who take big decisions inside a state.

2015 article by American Jewish banker

 
Pakistani military leaders know they will end up with a civil war.
Are you sure about that? I mean itna kuch Pakistan main ho gaya in the past 2-3 years where Pakistanis should have been on the road. Still, nothing happened; I doubt anything will happen if Asim Munir fully joins Saudi Arabia against Iran.
 
Pakistan will never attack Iran for or on behalf of house of donkeys in Saud.

Pakistani military leaders know they will end up with a civil war.

There is enough in pakistan who have some shame and will not allow those purchased with a few dollars and jobs in Saudi who often come on here supporting the GCC. to have their way.
The government, the establishment, and the opposition should base Pakistan's foreign policy on national interests rather than emotions or ideological preferences. Every country pursues relationships according to its own strategic and economic priorities.
Iran maintains important economic ties with India, including cooperation on the Chabahar Port project. China, despite its close strategic partnership with Pakistan, has trade with India worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Turkey is a NATO member while also maintaining relations with Europe, the United States, Russia, and many regional powers. All states engage with multiple partners simultaneously when it serves their national interests.
Pakistan follow the same principle by maintaining constructive relations with China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Türkiye, the United States, and other countries wherever it aligns with Pakistan's national interest. Saudi Arabia however, has provided Pakistan with significant assistance, including financial support, deferred oil payment facilities, and other forms of economic cooperation. Whether one agrees with every aspect of Saudi policy or not, this history of support should be recognized fairly and objectively. Criticism or support for any country should be based on facts rather than personal sentiment
 
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Are you sure about that? I mean itna kuch Pakistan main ho gaya in the past 2-3 years where Pakistanis should have been on the road. Still, nothing happened; I doubt anything will happen if Asim Munir fully joins Saudi Arabia against Iran.
what has happend last few years? eh eh? you replace corrupt leaders with a leader who is thick and an intelectual pygmy?

I sat in a bar opposite the high court in UK called Daleys many moons ago when Imran was in court against Botham and co, Imran's lawyer was George Carmen a good mate of mine who only represented Imran because Imran father in law asked him as a favour to act for Imra, George and I discussed that whilst Imran heart was in right place he was thick as two planks and illsuited to being a leader other than a figurehead.

Subesequanly I watched Imran antics with interest over 20 years. He simply failed. He could have taken power much sooner had he not been so stubborn. Look at zulfi he formed PPP with Ayub patronage, Shariff thru Zia patronage.

Imran was offered similar by Mushy but Imran simply failed to understand Pakistan and how to get power and change peoples lot

So now for all his stubborness he languishes in jail. By the time current lot finish Imran will be well passed it and be lucky to get out between 80-90. Whats he going to do then,


So in Imran Asim knew what he could do and get away with. Getting back to top Asim is not stupid that he will risk Pakistans very existance to save House of donkeys. He doesnt need to he can milk house of donkeys without actually delivering FA mate
 
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The government, the establishment, and the opposition should base Pakistan's foreign policy on national interests rather than emotions or ideological preferences. Every country pursues relationships according to its own strategic and economic priorities.

There are many examples of this. Iran maintains important economic ties with India, including cooperation on the Chabahar Port project. China, despite its close strategic partnership with Pakistan, has trade with India worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Turkey is a NATO member while also maintaining relations with Europe, the United States, Russia, and many regional powers. These examples show that states engage with multiple partners simultaneously when it serves their national interests.

Pakistan should follow the same principle by maintaining constructive relations with China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Türkiye, the United States, and other countries wherever it aligns with Pakistan's national interest.

It is also worth acknowledging that during several periods of economic and financial difficulty, Saudi Arabia has provided Pakistan with significant assistance, including financial support, deferred oil payment facilities, and other forms of economic cooperation. Whether one agrees with every aspect of Saudi policy or not, this history of support should be recognized fairly and objectively. Criticism or support for any country should be based on facts rather than sentiment
I have always believed that Pakistan supreme national interest is served by having an alliance with Iran and China we cannot change neigbours. You can ask those who been on here I been saying this for over 10 years

Both Iran and Pakistani leaders have failed to recognise who shoud be their frens and ememies. Iranian leaders are idiots as well for not building nukes when Pakistan was helping them, Iran leaders also stupid to make frens with an openly muslim hating Hindu nation. They also stupid for having Russia as a strategic ally when Putin says Israel is 50% Russian as they have so many Russian speakers

Soo iranians for a few dollars in Indian oil sales made mulim haters as freind and Pakistan for a few dollars dance with not Arabs who are a great nation but House of donkeys who appointed by west

So Pakistan strategic location and interests converge with China and Iran

As far as sentiment goes we love and have links to The Turks the Iranians the Arab people. But you are correct that foreign relations should be based on converging interest
 
I have always believed that Pakistan supreme national interest is served by having an alliance with Iran and China we cannot change neigbours. You can ask those who been on here I been saying this for over 10 years

Both Iran and Pakistani leaders have failed to recognise who shoud be their frens and ememies. Iranian leaders are idiots as well for not building nukes when Pakistan was helping them, Iran leaders also stupid to make frens with an openly muslim hating Hindu nation. They also stupid for having Russia as a strategic ally when Putin says Israel is 50% Russian as they have so many Russian speakers

Soo iranians for a few dollars in Indian oil sales made mulim haters as freind and Pakistan for a few dollars dance with not Arabs who are a great nation but House of donkeys who appointed by west

So Pakistan strategic location and interests converge with China and Iran

As far as sentiment goes we love and have links to The Turks the Iranians the Arab people. But you are correct that foreign relations should be based on converging interest
Well said Bro.
 

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