Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Pakistan First said:
Actually this your post proves that Israel is most heavily involved in the war. I don't see in any stretch of imagination that any air refueler tankers or any AWACS could be stationed so near in Bahrain or Kuwait. But Iran keep hitting bahrain and kuwait but not hitting Israel when you already acknowledged in your post that there are so many US assets in Israeli airbases.
Even if we assume for a second that Israel isn't involved in this round then we should always remember that it was Israel who started this war and wanted Iran to completely collapse. (btw we know as a fact that Israel is involved even now with providing maximum logistics to US forces attacking Iran.)
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Patience, friends, patience. Massive attacks on Israel will come from multiple directions: Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, and Iran should an off ramp not found soon.
 
Magi said:
"US military commanders are deliberately letting some Iranian missiles and drones through their air defenses to conserve dwindling interceptor stocks. "

That is one hell of a spin. Picture a state saying they are 'deliberately letting some rebels through their defenses to conserve dwindling weapons stocks.'
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This could be disinformation. I have read similar reports by the Israelis, that they don't attempt to intercept something they see is going to fall in open spaces, because they are low on interceptors. I first read reports like this in the 12 day war in 2025. Obviously the Israelis were lying and there was no actual shortage of interceptors.
 
Watandar said:
This could be disinformation. I have read similar reports by the Israelis, that they don't attempt to intercept something they see is going to fall in open spaces, because they are low on interceptors. I first read reports like this in the 12 day war in 2025. Obviously the Israelis were lying and there was no actual shortage of interceptors.
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The constant chatter of shortages in ammunition seems to have a purpose (e.g. signalling to lower commodities price stress). Can't figure out if it's based on truth or deliberate disinfo.
 
Master Chief said:
Did hitting Tel Aviv with a few random missiles actually result in any tactical or strategic victory against Israel the last time round? Such a repeated effort would - for now - be pissing in the wind. Certainly, if the radar shield is diminished to the point where strikes would be effective, then Iran should perhaps do this. But at present, Iran still needs to extract maximum benefit for itself from the minimum possible expenditure of assets. A very precarious position to be in.
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I agree that hitting Telaviv with few random missiles won't give any success. But most of war effort that US is taking is being facilitated by bases / airports in Israel. There are so many air refueling tankers and AWACS of the US stationed in Israel which are actively involved in war against Iran.

Also why Iran should let go of master mind of this war ? Why not to punish the biggest culprit? Yes I can understand if Iran is having shortage of missiles OR technical difficulties in achieving successes over Israel. Otherwise many Iranian fans used to say that Israel is nothing in front of Iran without US support. Yet now they are not asking Iran that you are attacking bahrain and kuwait over and over again who clearly do not have any tankers, AWACS, bombers etc. The current campaign in only air campaign. There's no land based missiles involved.

I want to understand the moral ground of unconditional iranian fans. Either they have to accept that yes Iran has limited missiles / capability to take on Israel and Israel is not a walk in the park but a serious challenge, so Iran fears Israeli retaliation OR they should accept that oh yes we have lots of missiles to hit and punish Israel but we started to like Israel now who is our existential enemy btw.
 
The airstrikes against Iran are being carried out from Israel. U.S. military aircraft are flying via the route U.S. mainland > EU > Israel > Jordan > Saudi Arabia to launch airstrikes on Iran.
However, as a tactical matter, it is first necessary to strike at the weak points in the enemy’s alliance, such as Kuwait and Bahrain. This is similar to how Israel sequentially attacked Lebanon and Syria to clear a path before attacking Iran proper.
Therefore, the problem with Iran’s timidity is not that it isn’t striking Israel right now. It is that it is failing to employ the obvious tactic of thoroughly destroying Kuwait and Bahrain, while Trump is once again calling for a ceasefire—to drive a wedge into the alliance.
Neither Iran’s leadership nor its generals know how to fight.
It is truly foolish to hold back on attacks now, when this is clearly a prime opportunity to drive a wedge into the alliance.
 
Pakistan First said:
Either they have to accept that yes Iran has limited missiles / capability to take on Israel and Israel is not a walk in the park but a serious challenge
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I would have thought, as a third party observer, that this paradigm is obviously the reality. And i doubt any reasonable Iranian would dispute that. Even WITHOUT US direct support, inflicting a military defeat on Israel remotely (assumption would be that ground ops are not possible) is exceptionally difficult. Israel maintains air supremacy over its lands, so spec ops seem out of the question too. Iran's strategy options are limited.
 
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Am I the only one who believes that the state of munitions in the US stockpile is not as dire as many suggest?

1. These are merely estimates; the actual numbers are unknown.

2. The US is certainly operating around the clock to produce as much as possible to restock their supplies.

3. Given the plenty attacks and on/off war situation with Iran, I would have anticipated a more critical situation concerning essential munitions and misdile stockpiles in the US.

4. One question remains:
Which country can replenish its used missiles more quickly? I don't know if I can believe the Iranian statements of rebuilding its missile stockpiles.

Iran producing 100 missiles per month, as stated by IRGC, would be an incredible feat. This would put them in the same category as China, US or Russia....is that believable? I don't know.
 
F.O.X said:
Than uae is the closest why not target it as well?
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Also amazingly, uae is making record oil sales during war. Iranian unconditional fans were so much against Israel and uae. But now since Iran is not attacking any of them, so I don't hear any Iranian fan to say a word about it. Its matter of time they will start praising both of these countries.

Even strategically, all Iran wanted was to hurt global economy by closing SOH. But look Iranian fans, ton loads of oil is being exported daily to the world by-passing the SOH using fujairah port. Yet your beloved irgc won't dare to touch it. So now take back all your evil words against uae which you said in first phase of war OR accept that Iran is now weak or making mistakes in this phase. Just want to see if they can accept realities or will keep making excuses to defend Iran and its super powers lol.

Lastly, these people should not take me as anti-iran. I want Iran to win this war but my problem is I only support truth. I don't support every action or inaction. I don't give blinded support to anyone.
 
Master Chief said:
The constant chatter of shortages in ammunition seems to have a purpose (e.g. signalling to lower commodities price stress). Can't figure out if it's based on truth or deliberate disinfo.
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I think they want to give off false info w.r.t air defences to make sure iran falls for one of their ceasefire proposals because they want to portray that they are defenseless and the ceasefire proposal is genuine this time, just to ease the pressure on oil supply and go for another round in couple of weeks
 
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