Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Only speculations.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

War back on the menu?

Strikes against border terrorists is not necessarily war against yankess

Anyway, it's a beautiful sight

 

[Prophecy]

Arabs a large people. There isn't a centralized policy since Arab nationalism is no more. There was Arab nationalism in 40s-70s and they fought wars with Israel that didn't work out as planned.

Saudi Arabia is acting alone is likely seeking to evade US sanctions/penalties in some kind of other forms if they had went with Russian or Chinese reactors but Saudi Arabia also wants US military protection for foreseeable future at least another decade or two.

Saudi Arabia may seek enrichment of some sort and looking to become a nuclear threshold state in the long term. The deal with US will be interesting if it actually comes into fruition and if US allows enrichment as Saudi is wealth nation unlike Egypt which is building Russian reactor in Cairo strictly for energy purposes and no enrichment. And no ballistic missile program (old missiles or rumors don't count, they don't actually have a ballistic missile program ) .

I do understand ur point of view.

What I feel is it will further compromise on Saudi Arabia long term sovereignty. It is digging itself deeper and deeper.

The moment Zion has removed obstacles in its path. Gaza and Syria is done. Today is Iran, there will be a next target in a few years. It's the logical progression of their ambitions.

They can be as loyal puppies as they want, when the time comes everything from 6 trillion investment fund to military security agreements and allies will disappear and get confiscated with the snap of a finger.

We are dealing with a very cunning and methodological enemy. Even little gulf statelets will turn their back and work against them. Target will be just SA instead of Iran, maybe a variation of Iran will be among the coalition to get back and take revenge.

The best way forward is to start diverging, make a new security architecture without Zion (America is just a horse which Zion rides), work towards ending regional rivalries between regional Muslim countries.

Kissing trump ass has it's own high which makes you arrogant and gives you the feeling you are the emperor sitting in tall glass cities with dollars and fancy toys, but it's just an illusion until it's your turn.

Someone mentioned above it is only because houtis are Muslims that SA has not turned it into Gaza we have all the allies(Zion) on our side. They are not unable to see if houtis were not Muslims and not enemies of Zion instead were Jewish settlers in yemen. It would have been SA which would have been turned into Gaza and the whole world (the block they consider allies) will participate.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Strikes against border terrorists is not necessarily war against yankess

Anyway, it's a beautiful sight

Yes, it’s clear Iran’s campaign against Kurdish terrorists will continue regardless of the war with the U.S. or Israel.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Fire continues to spread thru Jizan refinery



This is why you cannot simply “build a pipeline” to circumvent Hormuz. Even if you circumvent iran and its allies can light it on fire.

This is the real reason Trump is hesistant to restart this war. The East-West pipeline and Yanbu oil terminal are at risk of losing 4-5MBPD of oil.

Not convinced by this. Not necessarily detecting a spread of the fire. We need satellite imagery to confirm.

 

[Magi]

If even Houthi’s can shoot this garbage out of the sky, then what about Russians or Chinese or any country with some air defense?

These large UAVs are not clear what they’re for other than bombing insurgents who can’t defend themselves.

The era of MALE UAVs is rapidly coming to a close. They either need to adopt stealth design or will be shot down.

Bayraktar TB-2 defeated SAA's last major offensive of the Syrian war to liberate Idlib from HTS/Turkey in 2020. It was also highly publicized in the Azerbaijani offensive on Nagorno-Karabakh. Sale contracts poured in for controlled circles including Ukraine. The TB2 was not heard from much after Ukraine.

 

[Jalz]

War back on the menu?

This is regular and targets seperatists.

 

[Immortals]

Bayraktar TB-2 defeated SAA's last major offensive of the Syrian war to liberate Idlib from HTS/Turkey in 2020.

That’s because Syria Pantsir with an engagement envelope of 12KM near the front lines when TB-2 can engage outside of that envelope.

SAA was incompetent with its few remaining air defenses. Not surprising, most Arab armies are.

It was also highly publicized in the Azerbaijani offensive on Nagorno-Karabakh.

Another country with little to no air defenses or competency.

. The TB2 was not heard from much after Ukraine.

It was doing well the first month of the Ukraine war…..until Russia properly brought its air defenses into Ukraine to cover the front line. Then TB-2’s started dropping like flies.

This is the problem with all MALE UAVs (TB-2, Reaper, Long, Shahed-129, Heron, Hermes, etc) they are not stealthy. They show up on radar and also EO/IO. Once detected they are defenseless and easily shot down.

 

[Magi]

SAA was incompetent with its few remaining air defenses. Not surprising, most Arab armies are.

All Syrian Arab Republic air engagements seemed controlled by Russia. Then, Russia pulled the brake on Idlib offensive, and allowed HTS to rearm and finish the SAR. Iran was totally left out of decisions in Syria.

 

[PK781]

Why not hit Telaviv / Israel when its bases are most actively supporting US war? Also every soul in the planet knows that whole architect / mastermind of this war was Israel.

I've asked the same question many times........have yet to receive a proper/logical answer, not some made up BS excuses after excuses.

 

[Lulldapull]

That’s because Syria Pantsir with an engagement envelope of 12KM near the front lines when TB-2 can engage outside of that envelope.

SAA was incompetent with its few remaining air defenses. Not surprising, most Arab armies are.



Another country with little to no air defenses or competency.



It was doing well the first month of the Ukraine war…..until Russia properly brought its air defenses into Ukraine to cover the front line. Then TB-2’s started dropping like flies.

This is the problem with all MALE UAVs (TB-2, Reaper, Long, Shahed-129, Heron, Hermes, etc) they are not stealthy. They show up on radar and also EO/IO. Once detected they are defenseless and easily shot down.

We've purchased this AL-Turkiyan junk in Pakistan and it wouldn't last a week against India tbvh. Just like Chinese junk we have purchased.

@Quwa

Everybody knows man. We've purchased junk.

And why berate AL-Turkiyan or Chinese junk when Irans turned the entire US ABM defenses into a junk poster child of world fame no?

Countries like Pakistan need to develop their own ABM and local drones and not rely on discredited foreign junk.

 

[Shags101]

I've asked the same question many times........have yet to receive a proper/logical answer, not some made up BS excuses after excuses.

If I have to be that guy well you weaken the defensive shield of Israel from Kuwait to Jordan than go after the guy(country) who is causing the most problems and who has been heavily dependent on American arab and European countries to protect it.

Seriously why are people acting as if Iran is afraid of facing Israel they bombed them on 4 separate occasions they are actively plotting n Lebanon with Hezbollah for the next round and they are facing constant bombing by American and yes we have witnessed on rare occasions Arab countries trying to flex.

Honestly say what you will about Iran and yes I don’t agree with its politics but I agree they didn’t wave the surrender flag nor begging for a ceasefire trump stopped because either he really is an idiot and thinks using a hammer fixes everything or he’s an even bigger idiot whose planning something worse with Israel, let Iran take a breather regroup faster than the enemy who can’t replace their j interceptors faster than they can fire them off

 

[Immortals]

Zelensky says Iran attacked Ukraine first

 

[Prophecy]

We've purchased this AL-Turkiyan junk in Pakistan and it wouldn't last a week against India tbvh. Just like Chinese junk we have purchased.

@Quwa

Everybody knows man. We've purchased junk.

And why berate AL-Turkiyan or Chinese junk when Irans turned the entire US ABM defenses into a junk poster child of world fame no?

Countries like Pakistan need to develop their own ABM and local drones and not rely on discredited foreign junk.

Hold your horses brother.
It is not a front line fighter jet.

Every weapon has it's use case scenario. And every weapon to some degree is disposable in today's warfare.

The effectives of a weapon depends on capability of operator and weapon intrinsic use case limitations.

 

[LeonBlack08]