Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

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I would love to see this very short term the Saudis had with their experience last time will they send hundreds of thousands of troops perhaps with a few allies that owe them greatly financially Houthis are beasts and perhaps this is to spread peoples defenses even more so Houthis won’t hesitate to unleash everything they have against a land invasion I think this may actually become very worrisome for trump only a few short months and if the Houthis shut it down altogether everyone is going to see something totally different than what they expected…..kind of disappointed Iran didn’t hit Israel but I still say they are fine tuning their strikes when it does happen those new improved missiles are going to connect @Immortals owe you a meal if you ever do come to Florida

 

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What a disgrace I hope Bangladesh doesn’t join; but considering the millions of Bangladeshi expats sending remittances from there I believe sadly the govt will cave. What a sad day to be Bengali as well as a Muslim

 

[ShapurII]

Am just gonna comment on (Rafidhi) word.
i'm sure the only people who call Iranians that are gulf countries.

I have a friend from Ramallah and we have stayed in touch for years. I'm quite familiar with the Palestinian mentality. The secular ones are much better, but the radical ones have no love for Iran and Iranians at all.

On the other hand, my experience with Emiratis and Bahrainis has been very positive. I think among all the Arab states of the Persian Gulf, only Saudis dislike Iranians. But even in Saudi Arabia, the people from the eastern states like Qatif are OK with Iranians.

 

[ShapurII]

People here see you for what you are. Go run and hide behind the mods.

Trust me, it's the mods that insist I shouldn't reply to your posts. Otherwise, last time you actually wrote something offensive, I'm sure you remember quite well what you got in response.

It's only out of respect for people like @Persian Gulf and @Musings that I refrain from replying to your constant insults.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I find myself agreeing with much of what you say but why perpetuate several outright lies amidst a wave of hard but necessary truths?

As I said to you before, Tel Aviv chose to breach the terms of the Islamabad MoU. We can speculate on whether this was always Tel Aviv's insidious plan or whether it was a spur of the moment incident but that makes no difference.

Iran rightly draws criticism for her strategy and tactics and probably also her poor sense of geopolitical timing, but to summarily blame Iran for this conflagration is not based in reality.

This after already knowing that MoU was being used to shape the battlefield.... redeploy troops... move new equipment and replenish drained ones.

One facing the axe has to come clean?

That is the upside down world we live in... let me know how ones speculating Iran's actions reconcile with the one of the unprovoked aggressor? Did the aggressor accomplish all goals which pushed it to initiate this war of aggression?

It is best to eat the humble pie and not paint the one against the wall... even today people blame Palestinians for their plight... ask them do they blame the rape on the victim as well? We have been through this many times over... the war is imposed on the region and ones aloof are still trying to best understand it's rationale... they just cannot fathom what the aggressor says or does...
Read their words. Just see what zion and it's proxies have been saying all along... they just keep pushing along and the rest keep adjusting to the new reality... New norm.

 

[Desert]

I have a friend from Ramallah and we have stayed in touch for years. I'm quite familiar with the Palestinian mentality. The secular ones are much better, but the radical ones have no love for Iran and Iranians at all.

On the other hand, my experience with Emiratis and Bahrainis has been very positive. I think among all the Arab states of the Persian Gulf, only Saudis dislike Iranians. But even in Saudi Arabia, the people from the eastern states like Qatif are OK with Iranians.

So basically your only problem is with the Palestinians from Gaza, right? while the secular ones in Ramlla are cute and good peeps ?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I would love to see this very short term the Saudis had with their experience last time will they send hundreds of thousands of troops perhaps with a few allies that owe them greatly financially Houthis are beasts and perhaps this is to spread peoples defenses even more so Houthis won’t hesitate to unleash everything they have against a land invasion I think this may actually become very worrisome for trump only a few short months and if the Houthis shut it down altogether everyone is going to see something totally different than what they expected…..kind of disappointed Iran didn’t hit Israel but I still say they are fine tuning their strikes when it does happen those new improved missiles are going to connect @Immortals owe you a meal if you ever do come to Florida

I'd really like to see... when Saudi coalition goes head first in Yemen while they've poked Iraq and are in fact pressuring it to dismantle PMFs.
Either start a civil war there or have them go gung on Saudis themselves....

 

[ShapurII]

So basically your only problem is with the Palestinians from Gaza, right? while the secular ones in Ramlla are cute and good peeps ?

I never said Palestinians from Gaza were any different from the people of the West Bank.

Ramallah has its fair share of radicals too. In fact, my friend told me that most of her family except for his uncle who passed away because of cancer disliked Iran. And his uncle who liked Iranians was agnostic.

And you could've seen this at the world cup too. People in Palestine celebrated when Egypt got a draw against Iran. You could've seen all those Egyptian flags there while Iran was getting bombed by Israel and the US just a few weeks before that, over our support for Palestine.

 

[Musings]

Topic guys…………….

 

[Desert]

I never said Palestinians from Gaza were any different from the people of the West Bank.

Ramallah has its fair share of radicals too. In fact, my friend told me that most of her family except for his uncle who passed away because of cancer disliked Iran. And his uncle who liked Iranians was agnostic.

And you could've seen this at the world cup too. People in Palestine celebrated when Egypt got a draw against Iran. You could've seen all those Egyptian flags there while Iran was getting bombed by Israel and the US just a few weeks before that, over our support for Palestine.

Firstly , you shouldn't just (HEAR) what people say, you need to go and see with your own eyes (that's about radicals comment and ramala)

secondly, about ppl in Gaza celebrating the Egyptian team , well you need to know something also , most of gaza people are HUGE supports of Al-Ahly and Zamalek ( Egyptian teams) and they had official Supporters Association of those 2 teams in gaza before the war , let me show you some photos.

and that's a video of Al-ahly supporters association in gaza

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Why you people gave that match (Egypt vs Iran) a big deal ?

 

[Desert]

Topic guys…………….

My fault , it's just i had to point somethings ..

 

[Watandar]

I would love to see this very short term the Saudis had with their experience last time will they send hundreds of thousands of troops perhaps with a few allies that owe them greatly financially Houthis are beasts and perhaps this is to spread peoples defenses even more so Houthis won’t hesitate to unleash everything they have against a land invasion I think this may actually become very worrisome for trump only a few short months and if the Houthis shut it down altogether everyone is going to see something totally different than what they expected…..kind of disappointed Iran didn’t hit Israel but I still say they are fine tuning their strikes when it does happen those new improved missiles are going to connect @Immortals owe you a meal if you ever do come to Florida

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[krash]

I find myself agreeing with much of what you say but why perpetuate several outright lies amidst a wave of hard but necessary truths?

As I said to you before, Tel Aviv chose to breach the terms of the Islamabad MoU. We can speculate on whether this was always Tel Aviv's insidious plan or whether it was a spur of the moment incident but that makes no difference.

Iran rightly draws criticism for her strategy and tactics and probably also her poor sense of geopolitical timing, but to summarily blame Iran for this conflagration is not based in reality.

Not pathetic is he who claims lies yet does not point them out.

My post was not about this issue and I don't believe it will help you anymore than it did before. Our approaches are diametrically opposed; what Iran should do Vs where to appropriate the blame in order to placate my infantile sensibilities and justify Iran shooting itself in the foot. Yeah, Israel breached the MOU (Who was arguing against that?). Now what? Not attack third-party commercial vessels, let Lebanon be bombed while using the MOU to pressure the US into stopping it, and take what you've won? Or much more wisely attack third-party commercial vessels, lose everything you've gained, scrap the MOU that was your win, and start getting bombed alongside Lebanon with impunity?

You can continue to blame Israel for what they indeed did and placate yourself, but what does it take away from the fact that what Iran did was foolish, gained it nothing, and continues to result in its losses. Again, only if you still want to pretend that explicit Iranian statements that their attack was about the Strait and not Lebanon do not exist.

 

[Desert]

israeli army denies it targeted Egyptian Damietta port.

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[ShapurII]

Firstly , you shouldn't just (HEAR) what people say, you need to go and see with your own eyes (that's about radicals comment and ramala)

secondly, about ppl in Gaza celebrating the Egyptian team , well you need to know something also , most of gaza people are HUGE supports of Al-Ahly and Zamalek ( Egyptian teams) and they had official Supporters Association of those 2 teams in gaza before the war , let me show you some photos.

and that's a video of Al-ahly supporters association in gaza

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Why you people gave that match (Egypt vs Iran) a big deal ?

Of all the places on earth that I would visit some day, Palestine and Israel will be the next after the last. The only reason I am talking to this particular person is because we chatted online for years and now we're friends.

You're missing the point, which is very clear to me They supported Egypt AGAINST Iran. You couldn't find even a single Iranian flag there. And there was nothing to celebrate. Egypt got a draw, it didn't win the match. That's no reason for celebration. Even if it's your own country, let alone a different country. Did we celebrate when Iran drew against Belgium in Iran? No. Anyway, we're off-topic. I believe you have understood my point of view clearly.