Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Another sign that the kinetic war is over.

US begins restoring diplomatic staff to Middle East missions

WASHINGTON: President Donald Trump's administration is starting to send personnel back to some diplomatic missions in the Middle East that were evacuated or downsized amid tensions with Iran, two...

www.thenews.pk

It is a prelude to kinetic war. The first sign is to quarantine and choke Iran. Second, foment internal instability, buying dissidents, preparing militias in the periphery... zion it seems will further look to destabilize Lebanon, Syria and Iraq and try to make that as a staging ground against Iran from outside.

Anyways, anything planned way too long into the future has low probability without significant resources and political will... both are in short supply getting harder.

So, in the short term everything is still scheduled post midterms. The idea is that the economic warfare will only kill and starve Iranians and harm no one else ... so assume feigned normalization.

 

[Watandar]

This is a prelude to kinetic war. The first sign is to quarantine and choke Iran. Second, foment internal instability, buying dissidents, preparing militias in the periphery... zion it seems will further look to destabilize Lebanon, Syria and Iraq and try to make that as a staging ground against Iran from outside.

Anyways, anything planned way too long into the future has low probability without significant resources and political will... both are in short supply getting harder.

So, in the short term everything is still scheduled post midterms.

Embassy staff arriving or leaving is one of the few un-mistakable signals on whether there is going to be a conflict or not. There is no need for an interpretation.

People don't want to read anymore. They just want to "react" to tweets or memes.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Unless he believes he can win it in one go he’s not going to try most likely but who knows but average American left or right don’t like wars that have no meaning(sept 11 gave meaning for Afghanistan didn’t work so well with Iraq republicans got butchered for that one)

trump is a retard who believes anything the last person who talks to him says. He just needs a phone call from bibi telling him "you're about to win don't stop now!" and he'll try again. he hasn't lost maga support other than a few loud voices and except the left wing of the democrats, the war has broad political support. Public support is irrelevant as americans will never do anything like a strike to, they prefer to just complain on social media. Generally, american society and its people are write-offs, don't expect anything from them.

 

[Watandar]

Well, we won, right?

Bigger question is why so many don't want to accept that the "war" phase is done ??

 

[BigMela2onin]

Embassy staff arriving or leaving is one of the few un-mistakable signals on whether there is going to be a conflict or not. There is no need for an interpretation.

People don't want to read anymore. They just want to "react" to tweets or memes.

It's not a big deal to move diplomats around when you are setting the pace of the entire conflict.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Embassy staff arriving or leaving is one of the few un-mistakable signals on whether there is going to be a conflict or not. There is no need for an interpretation.

People don't want to read anymore. They just want to "react" to tweets or memes.

I don't think tightening the screws on Iran rhymes with return of embassy staff.
Anyways, it would be a grand assumption that Iran itself wouldn't turn up the heat.

 

[Watandar]

It's not a big deal to move diplomats around when you are setting the pace of the entire conflict.

It's a very big deal and an un-mistakable diplomatic signal to those actually able to read them.

But you do you.

 

[BigMela2onin]

It's a very big deal and an un-mistakable diplomatic signal to those actually able to read them.

Ok, then enlighten me.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Bigger question is why so many don't want to accept that the "war" phase is done ??

It's not clear to me what phase we're in right now.

 

[Watandar]

Ok, then enlighten me.

Read these articles and enlighten yourself.

US to send diplomats back to Middle East posts signalling Iran war ‘winding down’ | | AW

The return of foreign service officers at US missions in the region could begin as early as this week.

thearabweekly.com

Return of US diplomats to Middle East seen as reducing risk of return to war

The Trump administration faced growing uncertainty about staffing embassies and consulates

www.middleeasteye.net

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/25/world/middleeast/us-diplomats-middle-east-embassies.html

Note the diplomats are being sent back with their families.

 

[Magi]

So, here's a recap of the situation so far:

1. The US effectively destroyed Iran's nuclear enrichment and shut it down in June 2025.
2. The US imposed a naval blockade on Iran indefinitely and Iran can do nothing about it.
3. Iran is not going to get a penny from the traffic in the Strait of Hormuz.
4. Iran has lost over $400 billion in infrastructural damage and over a trillion dollar over its nuclear program.
5. Iran has lost over 10K civilians and soldiers in 52 days of war, over 600 residential buildings and most of its command chain.
6. Iran is at the mercy of the US and Israel and they can attack Iran again any time they feel like it and mow the lawn with minimal consequences.
7. There will be no sanctions relief in any shape or form. No money will be released from Iran's frozen funds.

And some people here think Iran has won this war.

Release of frozen assets? Lifting of sanction? What are they smoking?

The core purpose of the war was to dismantle Iran. Opening the Strait was ancillary. Now with that out of the way we are back to Feb 27 minus all of the core industrial base, nuclear program, scientists, conventional military, etc. etc. and with a naval blockade as cherry on top. We know what comes next.

 

[Shags101]

trump is a retard who believes anything the last person who talks to him says. He just needs a phone call from bibi telling him "you're about to win don't stop now!" and he'll try again. he hasn't lost maga support other than a few loud voices and except the left wing of the democrats, the war has broad political support. Public support is irrelevant as americans will never do anything like a strike to, they prefer to just complain on social media. Generally, american society and its people are write-offs, don't expect anything from them.

Average republican like the average democrat don’t care about Iran but they do care that before the war their pocketbooks was light and even more so during this war Trump still has the core maga supporters but you need more than a cult to win average republicans see him and everything he does toxic…..seriously though how they didn’t see that in his first term now he’s totally unhinged but kind of getting away from the thread night

 

[retaxis]

This war is so weird because there was never a ground component to begin with. No way to judge what a frontline is. Just seems like US pummeling Iran but Iran like the Taliban just sticks around anyway. Iran also seems to never escalate and always try to de escalate which shows weakness and a lack of power.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Average republican like the average democrat don’t care about Iran but they do care that before the war their pocketbooks was light and even more so during this war Trump still has the core maga supporters but you need more than a cult to win average republicans see him and everything he does toxic…..

They care about it but not enough to do anything about it.

seriously though how they didn’t see that in his first term now he’s totally unhinged but kind of getting away from the thread night

americans only care about retarded culture war bullshit. More americans voted for trump the second time than the first despite 1 million + covid deaths and his coup attempt. There is nothing redeemable or salvageable from american society.

 

[RzA]

This war is so weird because there was never a ground component to begin with. No way to judge what a frontline is. Just seems like US pummeling Iran but Iran like the Taliban just sticks around anyway. Iran also seems to never escalate and always try to de escalate which shows weakness and a lack of power.

It was planned for many years now. First it was through computer simulated scenarios where they lost the majority of them, compelling previous presidents to not instigate and keep their distance. They decided that like us, they too will play the long game, that's why every year the sanctions worsen and our currency is as worthless as toilet paper. On top of that, if you can't beat an opponent outright, you infiltrate and beat them from within and they had two assets, CIA+Mossad, that proved to be more effective than any bunker missile they could muster against us. Since our government, and every branch of society has been infiltrated, I don't see this playing out well for us in the future unless Mojtaba enacts Stalinist like purges which I just don't see happening whatsoever.