Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Didn’t your top general literally just get fired for corruption? Weren’t also ballistic missiles found to be not properly fueled and instead had water in them?

When was the last time a Chinese aircraft carrier deployed across the globe for 6 months?

China is unproven in military combat. Its last experience with war was Korea. Chinese military will go thru the same growing pains that Russian military did after invading Ukraine.

China on paper is hypothetically a very strong military power, however we have yet to see them in an actual conflict. If wars were solely won by possessing shiny high tech weapons and strong economic power with a solid industrial manufacturing capability, then U.S. wouldn’t be stuck in the mud with Iran.

China can win the war without launching any J35 from a EMALS catapult of their Fujian.
US is so polarized and their Government is so stupid that probably they will default in next months because their stupid war against Irán.
Being lack of experience doesn't mean they're stupids.
US will fall alone.

 

[Immortals]

No. MOU has allowed to Irán to rebuild all missile infraestructure,

This is false. It will many more months to rebuild that infrastructure and likely years. Iran isn’t China, it doesn’t have the industrial base that China has and will need to import many items in its quest to rebuild.

Iran may have been able to salvage and build workshops in mountains in the past 6 months but it will some time to scale that to pre war levels.

to redeploy anti aerial assets

A Mq-9 made it all the way to Khomein this week. And also attacked a missile base in Khorramshahr.

Iran’s air defense network is just patches of surviving systems for point defense. The air defense network collapsed the first week.

and be sure, rebuild nuclear infraestructure with no watchdogs making questions.

No industrial level nuclear infrastructure has been rebuilt. This is confirmed by satellite photos. Any speculation that Iran has secret small workshops racing to the bomb, is just speculation.

And the more time passes the worse for americans.
Irán builds more missiles than US antimissiles, if you count also cruise missiles and drones.

Except the U.S. has a stronger economy than Iran and more liquid assets than Iran and can survive this Cold War seige longer than Iran. Strategic patience has failed for past 10 years. It won’t work this time either.

Sooner or later Iran will have to go all out. Or else it will crumple from within like Assad’s Baathist government did.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Flotilla]

This is false. It will many more months to rebuild that infrastructure and likely years. Iran isn’t China, it doesn’t have the industrial base that China has and will need to import many items in its quest to rebuild.

Iran may have been able to salvage and build workshops in mountains in the past 6 months but it will some time to scale that to pre war levels.

Persian Gulf posted more than twice pictures about underground infraestructure being set off just to move missile production.

Also IRGC generals have very recently said that they're not only building more missiles, even they're REPLACING STOCKS expended during the 12 days war.

A Mq-9 made it all the way to Khomein this week. And also attacked a missile base in Khorramshahr.

Iran’s air defense network is just patches of surviving systems for point defense. The air defense network collapsed the first week.

A cake doesn't make you pastry chef.

How many of them have been shoot down during those months trying to sneak inside Irán?.

Except the U.S. has a stronger economy than Iran and more liquid assets than Iran and can survive this Cold War seige longer than Iran. Strategic patience has failed for past 10 years. It won’t work this time either.

I agree. Nobody is comparing Iranian economy with american one.

I am just telling that Trump is completely crazy building ballrooms while he is depleting the most advanced munitions inventories both offensive and defensive while burning millions daily in a stupid war just to mantain alive a doomed nation like Israel.

I told you 10 times. He is Nero.

China knows that and will use Irán to burn America from inside when default.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Persian Gulf posted more than twice pictures about underground infraestructure being set off just to move missile production.

No, those photos show they have begun BORING into the mountain. Do you know how long such a process takes? It’s not like paving a road.

It could take months for those tunnels to be complete and then actually retrofitted with equipment.

Also IRGC generals have very recently said that they're not only building more missiles, even they're REPLACING STOCKS expended during the 12 days war.

Yeah who cares what they say. What do you expect them to say? “We are low on missiles and production may take years to come back?”

How many of them have been shoot down during those months trying to sneak inside Irán?.

Irrelevant, if you cannot shoot a large MALE MQ-9 before it reaches hundreds of miles into your country then your air defense is toast.

Now imagine if U.S. sends F-22 or F-35 or B-2. They can attack anything they want that is above ground.

China knows that and will use Irán to burn America from inside when default.

So far China is running around shaking the hands of Arab leaders who are assisting the war on Iran.

You seem to have already forgotten China has reduced oil imports by 5MBPD which is doing a big role in keep oil prices below $100.

China isn’t helping Iran as much as you think it is.

 

[Magi]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Arash]

Nit sure much will remain in IL either.....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China can win the war without launching any J35 from a EMALS catapult of their Fujian.
US is so polarized and their Government is so stupid that probably they will default in next months because their stupid war against Irán.
Being lack of experience doesn't mean they're stupids.
US will fall alone.

Yep, China vs USA gonna be similar in result to the Spain vs Argentina world cup final.

Most people rooted for Argentina because they viewed it as a more popular team with more historical pedigree without considering the actual skill discrepancy between the two teams.

China is very likely superior to the US in the same way.

 

[Immortals]

(Note this account is controlled by Qalibaf’s western educated social media team not by the man himself)

 

[Immortals]

This is how you know Iran isn’t serious about escalating the conflict or responding to the economic siege. Look how close those tankers and Military aircraft are parked.

 

[Flotilla]

No, those photos show they have begun BORING into the mountain. Do you know how long such a process takes? It’s not like paving a road.

It could take months for those tunnels to be complete and then actually retrofitted with equipment.

Yes, It will take time.

Probably you're right and could take some time, but even Israel is recognizing that Irán has rebuild their missile manufacture.

That means that Irán is building missiles right now. The fact that during months US and Israel didn't hit industrial centers suggest that missile program is active again.

Yeah who cares what they say. What do you expect them to say? “We are low on missiles and production may take years to come back?”

Okay, let's zoom out and take a slightly broader view.

How is it possible that—if Iran's strategy were doomed to ultimate defeat for whatever reason you might cite—none of those generals have fled or, at the very least, openly criticized the strategy adopted by the government?

What those generals say might be worthless; very well, let us examine their behavior and the self-confidence they display.

It is not just the generals, but also the officers and the rank and file, who show unwavering adherence—not only to the regime but also to the strategy that has been laid out.

That may not seem important to you, but on the other side, the head of the US Army resigned just 48 hours ago. Others have done the same, and several have been outright purged.

So far China is running around shaking the hands of Arab leaders who are assisting the war on Iran.

You seem to have already forgotten China has reduced oil imports by 5MBPD which is doing a big role in keep oil prices below $100.

China isn’t helping Iran as much as you think it is.

You are being very unfair to China and the Islamic Republic.

China is shrewd; it doesn't need to antagonize the Saudis or the Qataris in order to support Iran. That’s one point.

It is interesting that neither the Iranian government, the IRGC, nor even the press aligned with the IRGC has criticized China in the slightest.

And yet, after two weeks of intense bombing and an economic blockade, Iran lacks nothing in military terms.

Furthermore, it is clear that the reaction time to respond to US attacks has dropped from 48 hours to six or even less. Even more striking is the coordinated nature of the launches from multiple regions simultaneously, highlighting that—at the very least—a central command structure is functioning once again.

Are you sure China isn't helping Iran? Where is Iran getting those resources and enhanced capabilities? Perhaps you are right, and China isn't helping simply because Iran isn't asking for it.

What is clear is that this latest skirmish has highlighted that Iran is better prepared to respond now than it was before the war began, when it used to take countless hours to react.

Not to mention that the IRGC is currently harassing maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz.

 

[Immortals]

 

[KAL-EL]

Yes, It will take time.

Probably you're right and could take some time, but even Israel is recognizing that Irán has rebuild their missile manufacture.

That means that Irán is building missiles right now. The fact that during months US and Israel didn't hit industrial centers suggest that missile program is active again.



Okay, let's zoom out and take a slightly broader view.

How is it possible that—if Iran's strategy were doomed to ultimate defeat for whatever reason you might cite—none of those generals have fled or, at the very least, openly criticized the strategy adopted by the government?

What those generals say might be worthless; very well, let us examine their behavior and the self-confidence they display.

It is not just the generals, but also the officers and the rank and file, who show unwavering adherence—not only to the regime but also to the strategy that has been laid out.

That may not seem important to you, but on the other side, the head of the US Army resigned just 48 hours ago. Others have done the same, and several have been outright purged.


You are being very unfair to China and the Islamic Republic.

China is shrewd; it doesn't need to antagonize the Saudis or the Qataris in order to support Iran. That’s one point.

It is interesting that neither the Iranian government, the IRGC, nor even the press aligned with the IRGC has criticized China in the slightest.

And yet, after two weeks of intense bombing and an economic blockade, Iran lacks nothing in military terms.

Furthermore, it is clear that the reaction time to respond to US attacks has dropped from 48 hours to six or even less. Even more striking is the coordinated nature of the launches from multiple regions simultaneously, highlighting that—at the very least—a central command structure is functioning once again.

Are you sure China isn't helping Iran? Where is Iran getting those resources and enhanced capabilities? Perhaps you are right, and China isn't helping simply because Iran isn't asking for it.

What is clear is that this latest skirmish has highlighted that Iran is better prepared to respond now than it was before the war began, when it used to take countless hours to react.

Not to mention that the IRGC is currently harassing maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz.

Some were convinced that China would directly intervene in the conflict causing world war III.

Complete hopium