Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Lulldapull]

If they 100% shut it down then what happens to all the third world?

Death no?

 

[Professor Jiang]

Same BS. He's deflecting yet again.

 

[Lulldapull]

the goverment / establishment really shot itself on its foot by further antagonising the PTI in KP and this will only help the TTP.
Pakistan is weak and poor with a leadership that sees its future retirement in Middle east (after Iran war) or West , therefore its willing to spend its soldiers and young officers for some halal dollars.

back in the days we showed some backbone when the parliament voted against joining the GCC war on Yemen, people seem to forget that Yemen is not a monolith entity where only a small faction of Zaidi's (not Shia) Huthis are fighting the Saudi aggression. the illinformed sectarian propoganda has turned this unjustified war on Yemen as a shia vs sunni war and anyone criticising Saudi war atrocities on yemen gets branded Iranian spy and a shia just like in West criticising Israeli atrocities is branded as antisemite even protesting for peace is branded as pro Hamas.

remember that all this war is within Yemen and the rebels are retaliating due to ongoing blockade and embargo on Yemen.

Saudis are pissed off and they have lost their partners in crime i.e UAE who are backing different set of headchoppers and joined their Israeli partners in their proxy wars in Somalia.

Irfan bhai we are on nobody's side, cuz we can't afford to be on anyone's side in this shitt fight.

Udher Iranis cut off our oil we die within a few weeks and on the other side we have old military relations with those chutiya sawdi's.

We just want to play mediator in this or our existence is on the line.

 

[BananaRepublic]

If they 100% shut it down then what happens to all the third world?

Death no?

Third world can visit the “US perspectives thread” - where everything is going swimmingly - 90% of Iran’s missiles capacity has been destroyed - US controls the SoH - plummeting of oil price is imminent.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Same BS. He's deflecting yet again.

MAGA have elected someone that reflects their own IQ and morality.

May it continue.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Irfan bhai we are on nobody's side, cuz we can't afford to be on anyone's side in this shitt fight.

Udher Iranis cut off our oil we die within a few weeks and on the other side we have old military relations with those chutiya sawdi's.

We just want to play mediator in this or our existence is on the line.

Ordinary Pakistanis are loyal to the Muslim cause.

We see it on PDF as well.

They are the unwitting victims.

As you said, no good options other than staying neutral.

If the mullahs were as foresighted as Pakistani leaders regarding nuclear - this would have been avoided.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Mohammed al-Bukhaiti: Saudi Arabia requested a one-month truce from Iran, and Sana'a rejected it.

 

[muhammed45]

Mohammed al-Bukhaiti: Saudi Arabia requested a one-month truce from Iran, and Sana'a rejected it.

Unlike what the mainstream media has portrayed, Yemen and AnsarAllah is not an Iranian puppet. They won't give a hoot about Iranian words if it defies their national interest. Its better for Al-Saud family to engage in negotiations instead of wasting time on Iran's pathetic reformist garbage government.

 

[OldTwilight]

Unlike what the mainstream media has portrayed, Yemen and AnsarAllah is not an Iranian puppet. They won't give a hoot about Iranian words if it defies their national interest. Its better for Al-Saud family to engage in negotiations instead of wasting time on Iran's pathetic reformist garbage government.

Reformers are only good as acting whores not anything else

 

[Ali_Baba]

Saudi airspace is open to the USA. We have all see air-to-air refuellers, drones and P8's and AWACs all operate from Saudi aribases for the USAF during the war itself ...

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Irfan bhai we are on nobody's side, cuz we can't afford to be on anyone's side in this shitt fight.

Udher Iranis cut off our oil we die within a few weeks and on the other side we have old military relations with those chutiya sawdi's.

We just want to play mediator in this or our existence is on the line.

nice post!

a question to you, in return for IR oil, can IR accept dollars or considers barter trade, feasible enough?!

for instance, with India, IR has accepted various types of repayments!
(you can look into GPT... for instance, tea and engineering products)

now, if im IR, why should I trust a country as a mediator, who is not even willing to work on the feasibility of barter (to avoid US sanctions)?!


from IR perspective, for such a weak country (or paper tiger from IR perspective), even though, this country does not want to hurt IR (but practically has no ability), would the interests of such a country matter in the IR decision making echelons?


If im IR, I would only show respect towards Pak. but when it comes to my interests, why should I listen to a country which has no spine!

 

[UKBengali]

Saudi airspace is open to the USA. We have all see air-to-air refuellers, drones and P8's and AWACs all operate from Saudi aribases for the USAF during the war itself ...

So much so that Iran took out an AWACs that was being used to guide attacks on it.


I don't understand why Iran did not punish KSA harder.

Dozens of drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles should have been aimed to take out MBS from his palaces.

 

[Professor Jiang]

So much so that Iran took out an AWACs that was being used to guide attacks on it.


I don't understand why Iran did not punish KSA harder.

Dozens of drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles should have been aimed to take out MBS from his palaces.

The sad reality is that there are still millions of people that believe that the Saudi family are 'custodians' of Makkah and Madinah, and therefore believe that any attack on Saudi is also an attack on the Ka'aba. Iran recognises this and therefore has to act more conservatively than with regards to places like UAE or Kuwait.

 

[Lulldapull]

nice post!

a question to you, in return for IR oil, can IR accept dollars or considers barter trade, feasible enough?!

for instance, with India, IR has accepted various types of repayments!
(you can look into GPT... for instance, tea and engineering products)

now, if im IR, why should I trust a country as a mediator, who is not even willing to work on the feasibility of barter (to avoid US sanctions)?!


from IR perspective, for such a weak country (or paper tiger from IR perspective), even though, this country does not want to hurt IR (but practically has no ability), would the interests of such a country matter in the IR decision making echelons?


If im IR, I would only show respect towards Pak. but when it comes to my interests, why should I listen to a country which has no spine!

We can’t trade with Iran because of secondary US treasury sanctions.

Like I said bhai Pakistan is in a serious situation which requires very careful handling.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

We can’t trade with Iran because of secondary US treasury sanctions.

Like I said bhai Pakistan is in a serious situation which requires very careful handling.

for direct exposure with IR!


these business dealing can be discussed with China and Russia!
(for indirect exposure)

now, if Im IR establishent, if i see all this, would I trust a country like ours?!


I dont think so!

(from IR perspective, it is a matter of how far one can justify its independent decision making in business deals!)


for instance, USA itself is now taking oil from Russia, what stops us?!