Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BananaRepublic]

India is irrelevant

They aren’t irrelevant from the Iranian perspective.

This is an Iranian thread and I am only looking at it from the Iranian perspective.

My views is based on recent and past Iranian actions.

 

[Lulldapull]

Oh US will surely get involved...but then sign another peace agreement with Ansarsllah soon after fighting erupts ,like it did the last time (especially once yemen blocks US- related shipping via Bab al the mandem (@Lulldapull )

The truth is US doesn't have enough ammunition to fight Iran ,so how can it to fight yemen and Iran at the same time?

Yeah no kidding. Many now saying these Jew-Billy had no clue what they were getting involved with here.

Irans taken a beating but it has also seriously messed up the entire region now and exposed all these colluddzz as a bunch of third world chumps.

Jewbilly now understand theres just is no more winning here.

How do you damage military bases buried 200 meters underground? It’s just a waste of expensive ordnance.

 

[925boy]

Doubt US would crash without India. China is completely free from US tech infra and doesn't use google or facebook or youtube etc they got their own ecosystem.

US got huge leverage over India since the tech guys moved in and now Indians all survive on US tech. US can switch it off and ban India tomorrow but they enjoy all the free data provided by Indians.

End of the day we can agree to disagree.

US NEEDS the Indian market. No big tech company can survive without access to MARKETS! Why is Elon trolling and begging for access to India for starlink? Chinese market access is cutoff for many US companies so access to Indian large and growing market is non negotiable zand India knows this. US is giving India ToT and local manufacturing benefits so quickly these days. Western capitalist system is almost bankrupt. The evidenc? Central banks worldwide keep stocking up on gold. Don't argue with the harsh truth and reality. US sanctions have blocked US out of many lucrative markets ,like Iran, and handed them to the likes of China. Seems like after Obama,internationally, Americans chose ego over smart strategies.

 

[retaxis]

US NEEDS the Indian market. No big tech company can survive without access to MARKETS! Why is Elon trolling and begging for access to India for starlink? Chinese market access is cutoff for many US companies so access to Indian large and growing market is non negotiable zand India knows this. US is giving India ToT and local manufacturing benefits so quickly these days. Western capitalist system is almost bankrupt. The evidenc? Central banks worldwide keep stocking up on gold. Don't argue with the harsh truth and reality. US sanctions have blocked US out of many lucrative markets ,like Iran, and handed them to the likes of China. Seems like after Obama,internationally, Americans chose ego over smart strategies.

US benefits from India using its facebook, google, gmail, twitter, amazon etc but India is completely reliant on the US. Without it, India can not function at all

Sitting at the negotiation table who do you think holds more power?

 

[925boy]

Yeah no kidding. Many now saying these Jew-Billy had no clue what they were getting involved with here.

Damn, can only conclude IDF is a paper tiger with abstract planning and poor understanding of Iranian capabilities.

Irans taken a beating but it has also seriously messed up the entire region now and exposed all these colluddzz as a bunch of third world chumps.

Yea...

Jewbilly now understand theres just is no more winning here.

Lol...but they still have some denial hangover leftover ,hence why they wanna try "one final time"..smh.

How do you damage military bases buried 200 meters underground? It’s just a waste of expensive ordnance.

I mean even US admitted it doesn't even have the required deep penetration weapons to successfully attack those sites buried in mountains. Those planes that want to carry MOAB over Iran should watch out cuz they will be slow and missile 358 can find them easier.

 

[925boy]

US benefits from India using its facebook, google, gmail, twitter, amazon etc but India is completely reliant on the US. Without it, India can not function at all

Sitting at the negotiation table who do you think holds more power?

Like @BananaRepublic said already due to mutually assured dependencies, US and India have to transact with each other, not with or out of desperation though. To think india doesnt have leverage over US is to essentially think india today is the India of 2005 or so. India underpins USs containment strategy in Asia against China. new Zealand and EU recently signed FTA with India this year, that shows economically that India is globally relevant.

But I don't fully understand the current India Iran dynamics vis a vis the US-Iran war going on and the true status of chabahar as an Iranian export port.

 

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[Immortals]

 

[retaxis]

Like @BananaRepublic said already due to mutually assured dependencies, US and India have to transact with each other, not with or out of desperation though. To think india does that leverage over US is to essentially think india today is the India of 2005 or so. India underpins USs containment strategy in Asia against China. new Zealand and EU recently signed FTA with India this year, that shows economically that India is globally relevant.

But I don't fully understand the current India Iran dynamics vis a vis the US-Iran war going on and the true status of chabahar as an Iranian export port.

America literally told India that Venezuela is going to sell India very expensive oil and india had no say in it

America literally told India to its face with modi in the room that US will not allow India to grow anymore

America sanctions India for buying Russian oil and does nothing against China.

America changes name of theatre from indo-pacific to just pacific because they see India as irrelevant.

India could do nothing and say nothing because India does not have leverage or technology.

In 2005, America would not have done this but today, America literally treats India like the phillipines.

Actions speak louder than words

 

[hussain0216]

America literally told India that Venezuela is going to sell India very expensive oil and india had no say in it

America literally told India to its face with modi in the room that US will not allow India to grow anymore

America sanctions India for buying Russian oil and does nothing against China.

America changes name of theatre from indo-pacific to just pacific because they see India as irrelevant.

India could do nothing and say nothing because India does not have leverage or technology.

In 2005, America would not have done this but today, America literally treats India like the phillipines.

Actions speak louder than words

At the same time India is isolated, even in South Asia they are distrusted

Things are happening around them

Their hindutva population and simping for Zionists and white supremacists has caused a backlash from the Muslims world, the left leaning world and the right hated Indians anyway

Indians have been chest beating about being some great minority and the world has responded with a lot of anti Indian derision

Recent social media trends have targeted Indians heavily



Indians big strength is their big market, 1.5 billion people, but their big weakness is that most of them are twats

 

[retaxis]

At the same time India is isolated, even in South Asia they are distrusted

Things are happening around them

Their hindutva population and simping for Zionists and white supremacists has caused a backlash from the Muslims world, the left leaning world and the right hated Indians anyway

Indians have been chest beating about being some great minority and the world has responded with a lot of anti Indian derision

Recent social media trends have targeted Indians heavily



Indians big strength is their big market, 1.5 billion people, but their big weakness is that most of them are twats

Yeah i agree with your points

and big market is over hyped since most indians are on food subsidies and could afford very little. The number of Indians who can actually afford western goods is very low percent and not like the huge market they pretend to be like China.

The indians who migrated overseas in the 70s and 80s and 90s behaved rather well but todays avalanche of indians in western world has caused the rise of the far right. No one wants to put up with nasty indian habits, scam callers all day and taxi drivers ripping you off and constant lies when dealing with indians in business

 

[Lulldapull]

Damn, can only conclude IDF is a paper tiger with abstract planning and poor understanding of Iranian capabilities.

Yea...

Lol...but they still have some denial hangover leftover ,hence why they wanna try "one final time"..smh.

I mean even US admitted it doesn't even have the required deep penetration weapons to successfully attack those sites buried in mountains. Those planes that want to carry MOAB over Iran should watch out cuz they will be slow and missile 358 can find them easier.

Iran's actually doing alright despite all this hoo haa on western/ social media. They've got the entire GCC by their necks and now shaking down all the cash maany from them or else they all die!

Irans houthi/ PMU/ Hezb strategy ensures that these guys in the GCC and in DC both comply or else the GCC dies.

Trump will have to cut a deal and essentially that entails a surrender to Iran. There's no other option left.

Its inevitable.

Trump is facing expulsion from the region and Israel's back is long broken. So my take on this drama is that its all worked out rather well for them Iranians, cuz they prepared like Jinns working day n night building millions of drones n missiles and digging all them tunnels n bunkers and creating these proxies all over da place.

Pretty cunning these Iranians no?

 

[Shags202]

Iran's actually doing alright despite all this hoo haa on western/ social media. They've got the entire GCC by their necks and now shaking down all the cash maany from them or else they all die!

Irans houthi/ PMU/ Hezb strategy ensures that these guys in the GCC and in DC both comply or else the GCC dies.

Trump will have to cut a deal and essentially that entails a surrender to Iran. There's no other option left.

Its inevitable.

Trump is facing expulsion from the region and Israel's back is long broken. So my take on this drama is that its all worked out rather well for them Iranians, cuz they prepared like Jinns working day n night building millions of drones n missiles and digging all them tunnels n bunkers and creating these proxies all over da place.

Pretty cunning these Iranians no

Trump plays checkers has a tantrum throws the board on the wall say he wants a redo they cheated Iran plays chess and plays the long game

 

[Lulldapull]

That’s why Iran keeps Pakistan at arms length.

Iran wants full sovereignty from Zio-US-Wahabi axis of evil.

Whereas Pakistan cannot afford full sovereignty.

Which makes them incompatible bedfellows.

Iran can only have close relationships with countries that are not at the mercy of the axis of evil. E.g. Russia, China, India, NK and Brazil.

Which is why I am puzzled when PDF Pakistanis complain about Iran hugging India.

I am sure Iran would love to hug Pakistan but Pakistan dare not allow it.

Hence it’s better for these two countries to maintain a low key cordial relationship.

Man all we can do is play mediator here and nothing much else.

Doing anything else on our part is just fantasies.

Iran's got the GCC under a lockdown, poised to just demolish it if the US tries anything funny. And you can see the US just don't got the oomph to bother trying.

Da fuqq would poor Pakistan do here?