Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Let's hope that doesn't happen. I am as far from being a fan of Israel as possible.

ok Rakesh - we believe you..

@Yasser76 (fyi )...

 

[BHAN85]

Iran should do 2 things
1. Keep mining the southern omani route and make sure that ships have to use iranian route
2. Do pre emptive attack which is legal according to UN. target something that makes american really think twice like data centres

why data center will make them think twice? there is nothing more easy to instantly substitute than a data center.

any other thing will be ridiculous as well.

usa ruling elite who decided this war dont give a fvck about any thing iran could do, due to that they chose iran to destabilize eurasia energy supply heart.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

why data center will make them think twice? there is nothing more easy to instantly substitute than a data center.

The data centers Iran attacked had total loss of client data. That’s irreversible damage.

Also data centers centered around AI are very expensive to build and time consuming.A major example is OpenAI’s billion dollar Stargate Datacenter in UAE.

If Iran can pop the AI bubble the world economy will collapse on its own.

 

[Leclerc]

ok Rakesh - we believe you..

@Yasser76 (fyi )...

Who is Rakesh?

 

[Bratva]

Myriad reasons. Could be a tip off on BLA insurgents/weapons. Could be increased security related to the nearby anti-taliban operation that is ongoing presently at our border with Afg. Pakistan takes western border actions regularly, and without the attention that this one is drawing, that are always directly related to Pakistani security matters.

I was expecting Pakistan to respond indirectly. The days of Iranian feigning ignorance is gone when they themselve know the reason and discuss elsewhere e.g.





The reasons are simple


1. You dont critisize Pakistan in a dregatory manner in Afghanistan of all places and expect Pakistan would remain silent.

2. You dont run joint military operation rooms with Houthis, send them weapons through submarines, arm iraqi militias to attack Saudia and when Pakistan comes in defence of Saudia you start cursing Pakistan , then expect Pakistan to respond in ways that Pakistan Feels better.



3. Agarchi is sending proposal to USA through Qatar only and openly nameing them. See agarchi statement regarding latest peace proposal sent to America. What is it if not snubbing Pakistan.

Play games. Expect a response too.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Strangely hostile act by Pakistan

The last a post was made about the Pakistan - Iran border "being closed", it was deemed also a hostile act at that time( a few weeks back). The border was subsequently re-opened if indeed was has been closed as per this new post.

No mention was made of why the border was closed at that time, and none at this time. Given the volume of traffic through the border, I do think it is unfair to simply label each closure as being a "hostile act", and not consider what may be operational issues due to the volume of traffic and poor infrastructure and resources.

It maybe a conscious decision in light of possible refugee type scenarios if war restarts, which it seems will be labelled as hostile on this thread. I think, even in that scenario, labelling it is hostile would be incorrect and unfair.

 

[tsunset]

I think that in the next round, Iran should go all mad lunatic berserk mode and target just every country bordering it and everyone it can randomly across the world besides some friendly countries and non-accomplices country

 

[Imran S]

Strangely hostile act by Pakistan

The Tehran Chamber of Commerce has stated that Iran's exports to Pakistan have been temporarily suspended due to banking sanctions.

According to Peyman Sanandaji, head of the Transportation Commission at the Tehran Chamber of Commerce, the sanctions imposed on Iran's banking system are posing a major obstacle to exports to Pakistan. He noted that if these sanctions remain in place and essential banking transactions cannot be conducted, Iranian exports to Pakistan will effectively come to a halt.

 

[r3alist]

told you guys, Pakistan is a compromised nation. All roads lead back to House of Saud. None of the countries in the region are actually independent. They are all required to kiss the Saudi ring in order to get a few shekels thrown their way like beggars. On the other side the Americans are pressing down on their necks as well.

Atleast pretend Pakistan has a national interest on a pdf

This was always a structural risk Iran was running

 

[Master Chief]

If you are concerned about something, you let your neighbour know about it. You send delegation and share your thoughts or concerns with your friendly country for example.

But when you shut the crossing all of a sudden to a country that's already at war with the strongest front of human kind history, you somehow try to put pressure on your neighbor.

Chabahar is Iran's long arm with an access to blue waters and greatly helps Iran bypass American sanctions. A vital asset.

This kind of hostility raises questions and my guess is Saudi role and its invasion on Yemen. Pakistan has sent 30-40 thousand troops to KSA, wonderful to say the least. Shows that Pakistan is hell bent on supporting this family in Arabian peninsula. No wonder if Pakistan tries to annoy Iranians in favour of Saudi family.

Quite the snowball of conjecture off the back of a random tweet.

Any of the possibilities I listed remain plausible. In any of these contexts, if Tehran cannot assure security while Pakistan IS ALSO FULLY ENGAGED in a war with a hostile country AND its agents within both western provinces, then Pakistan is obligated to take matters into its own hands. This has happened in the past when Afghanistan has heated up. So if this turns out to be the reason, I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway, I shan't debate any more on the context of a random tweet by goodness knows whom. Forumgoers may interpret events as they choose, until more clear and official indications are received.

 

[Flotilla]

The last a post was made about the Pakistan - Iran border "being closed", it was deemed also a hostile act at that time( a few weeks back). The border was subsequently re-opened if indeed was has been closed as per this new post.

No mention was made of why the border was closed at that time, and none at this time. Given the volume of traffic through the border, I do think it is unfair to simply label each closure as being a "hostile act", and not consider what may be operational issues due to the volume of traffic and poor infrastructure and resources.

It maybe a conscious decision in light of possible refugee type scenarios if war restarts, which it seems will be labelled as hostile on this thread. I think, even in that scenario, labelling it is hostile would be incorrect and unfair.

Well. While I cannot talk about the economy of Sistan Baluchestan, closing they frontier would probably harm as much as Pakistani interests like Iranian ones. So if they do deliberately, good luck with that.

By the way. In Kyle Kulinsky show he is citing that Irán is probably exporting diesel and oíl to Russia vía Caspian Sea, not to mention any money gathered by tolls in Hormuz.

So whatever happens, Irán seems have alternatives that can expand. Wonder if Pakistan has the same capability to do in their Baluchestan province...

 

[Bratva]

An Official explanation by government official

 

[r3alist]

An Official explanation by government official

That's really never been there, sounds open ended if it wants to be

 

[Bratva]

If you are concerned about something, you let your neighbour know about it. You send delegation and share your thoughts or concerns with your friendly country for example.

But when you shut the crossing all of a sudden to a country that's already at war with the strongest front of human kind history, you somehow try to put pressure on your neighbor.

Chabahar is Iran's long arm with an access to blue waters and greatly helps Iran bypass American sanctions. A vital asset.

This kind of hostility raises questions and my guess is Saudi role and its invasion on Yemen. Pakistan has sent 30-40 thousand troops to KSA, wonderful to say the least. Shows that Pakistan is hell bent on supporting this family in Arabian peninsula. No wonder if Pakistan tries to annoy Iranians in favour of Saudi family.

This post reeks of such hypocrisy that I wonder sometimes in what world the Iranians live? A world where their actions dont have any consequences or thrir interestes reign supreme and to condemn others indiscriminately?

Do you know What Iran is doing or saying against pakistan? Or have you heard about Pakistan hving its national interests ?

Its better you should educate yourself before debating so we dont have to derail the thread debumnking your propoganda and falsehoods.