Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[muhammed45]

Asim Munir at this very moment is a US aligned man. Politician or a military man, i don't know. But i have no doubt that he is not a well-wisher of resistance axis.

His mediation is not welcomed by Iran anymore. His presence in Iran wastes our efforts.

 

[Immortals]

The best way Iran can win is send oil to $200 and crash the world economy and watch all these dictatorships: From France, to Albania, to Pakistan, to Egypt, to sooooodi Arabia, to Jordan, to Syria, to Morocco, all collapse like a house of cards. Get the people into the streets and let them do regime change on your behalf! That is the CIA/Mossad way!

But unfortunately the Iranian leadership is filled with a bunch of CIA agents and traitors who care only about money and don’t want to hurt America’s standing in the world

 

[Immortals]

So let’s say for arguments sake Bibi hands are tired against a large strike in Iran but what if trump strikes Iran in a large attack before Israel’s election in order to to have Iran lash out against Israel to stop Israel’s elections and to have Bibi respond this would give Bibi the boost he needed in an election if they have elections within a week after an attack

Bibi is actually a moderate in Israel. Iran would prob prefer Bibi staying then some even more facist Zionist party assuming power in that country.

There are even worse candidates than Bibi in Israel who would make him look like a liberal lover of peace.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Asim Munir at this very moment is a US aligned man. Politician or a military man, i don't know. But i have no doubt that he is not a well-wisher of resistance axis.

His mediation is not welcomed by Iran anymore. His presence in Iran wastes our efforts.

He is a tool of West. Our government shouldn't be naive

 

[Shags202]

Bibi is actually a moderate in Israel. Iran would prob prefer Bibi staying then some even more facist Zionist party assuming power in that country.

There are even worse candidates than Bibi in Israel who would make him look like a liberal lover of peace.

No bibi is an opportunist he will shed his snake skin to fit wherever he can go to the current Israeli “government” are full of despicable evil and if the left rises they may want to change up the routine especially in terms with Arab neighbors war maybe good for Bibi but he and his cronies can turn war against the opposition in a heartbeat I’d rather the left win and cobble up a majority with Arab parties hopefully they do that maybe we can start looking to the future

 

[RzA]

Just curious, have we responded yet to the recent attack that killed several of our countrymen?

 

[Shags202]

Just curious, have we responded yet to the recent attack that killed several of our countrymen?

I think they were injuries only and from some post up in the air if it was actually American forces that actually hit that anti aircraft gun

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

Third aircraft carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt heading to Middle East.
Map of yesterday locations

https://news.usni.org/2026/10/19/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-oct-19-2026

 

[ShapurII]

U need to calculate all ships not just oil, so include LNG, cargo etc

$15bn is only for oil

U also need to calculate the fact that the pre war oil money Iran receive is not profit but revenue. There is a cost for getting oil out, moving it, paying wages, maintaining all the equipment etc.

Toll is almost all pure profit.

When I calculated it worked out similar.

And with anything the ideal situation is some pay and some don't so U have some leverage over global markets whilst also generating an income.

Nukes are nice, having them gives u deterrence and helps control the escalation ladder but I don't think it would have stopped USA and Israel attacking Iran.

When Israel attacked Iran in 12 day war, what would Iran have said, "ok now we gonna nuke U guys?" Or when they joint attacked then this year? No they wouldn't, because Iran knows it too would get nukes.

Generally no country will use nukes on the onset of war, only if they get super desperate. But like I said it defiently helps having them, puts U in position of power

Iran is currently partially closing it, potentially making money and normalising it.

If in future Arabs find ways around it, Iran can bomb them pipes/pumping stations.

There are lots of issues with your calculation.

Iran hasn't been able to shut the Strait of Hormuz yet. The US considers the Strait of Hormuz open, which is why it is no longer willing to give Iran any sort of concession over reopening it and our negotiators are discussing a potential deal over our nuclear program with the US, per both Qatari and Pakistani sources.

How do you want to realize even that $15 billion, assuming it is only from oil? Even that hasn't been realized yet.

 

[ShapurII]

On the issue of Pakistan, I am surprised that some people didn't know this would happen.

Pakistan has always been a Saudi ally and under the influence of the US. The only reason that Pakistan was chosen as a mediator by the US was because the US trusted Pakistan and Pakistan was close to China as well. So, both China and the US agreed that Pakistan had to play this role.

If the Ayatollahs in Iran thought Pakistan was Iran's friend, or even neutral in the war, they're beyond retarded.

 

[Winthorpe]

Any info on the 1:30 PM Eastern Oval Office address from POTUS and JD?

 

[Imran S]

On the issue of Pakistan, I am surprised that some people didn't know this would happen.

Pakistan has always been a Saudi ally and under the influence of the US. The only reason that Pakistan was chosen as a mediator by the US was because the US trusted Pakistan and Pakistan was close to China as well. So, both China and the US agreed that Pakistan had to play this role.

If the Ayatollahs in Iran thought Pakistan was Iran's friend, or even neutral in the war, they're beyond retarded.

If you and your Iranian brother do not want Pakistan to act as a mediator, then by all means, go and plead Modi to mediate instead, or ask your Natural Strategic Partner Taliban, to do the job.

 

[RocketLaw]

NEW: Qatar and Pakistan have presented a compromise proposal to revive U.S.-Iran talks. Under the plan, Iran would receive profits from its $6 billion in frozen funds held in Qatari banks.

In return, Iran would allow a secret IAEA visit to its nuclear sites.

Pakistani Army Chief Field Marshal Asim Munir reportedly carried the proposal to Tehran on Tuesday.

Sources say it has U.S. approval. Iran had reportedly responded positively to it earlier.

Only the interest on the frozen assets would be deposited into an Iranian account, not the principal.

The unannounced inspection would address a key U.S. demand on the nuclear file.

Source: Al-Araby Al-Jadeed



BREAKING: The US and Iran have reportedly given preliminary approval to a new compromise proposal from Qatar and Pakistan, per Reuters

It follows a report Monday that a breakthrough deal between Washington and Tehran could be announced as soon as this week, and Iran’s president saying Friday that Tehran is ready for dialogue.