Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Blain2]

He can still bomb Iran, even if democrats pass a resolution forbidding any strikes, Trump can veto it. People also forget Usa has strong establishment, when they want a war it will happen.

He won't need to veto. As the President, he can wage war without requiring anything from Congress. This is how all US Presidents operate.

What is the return of investment in re-starting a war with Iran? Not much upside for the American citizens. It is as clear as night and day that this war would only be waged to benefit Israelis. Trump is beholden to his zionist influencers and family members.

 

[ShapurII]

He won't need to veto. As the President, he can wage war without requiring anything from Congress. This is how all US Presidents operate.

Yes, unless the Congress passes a resolution to end the war with Iran, in that case Trump will use his veto power.

If both the Senate and the Congress pass such a resolution with two-thirds of the votes, Trump can no longer veto it and must end the war but that is extremely unlikely because the Republicans will prevent that from happening.

The Congress still can refuse to fund his war though. It won't stop him from launching a war, but it could limit the scale and duration of his strikes.

 

[925boy]

Domestically he's screwed but he can still wreak havoc overseas and that's why when I see IR supporters celebrate like the goobers they are I can't help but be embarrassed.

And when Trump's final desperate attack on Iran fails, what will you do? Exit PDF in shame?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

And when Trump's final desperate attack on Iran fails, what will you do? Exit PDF in shame?

You'd better start praying that "final desperate attack" doesn't occur.

 

[RzA]

And when Trump's final desperate attack on Iran fails, what will you do? Exit PDF in shame?

Who's talking about a final desperate attack you silly tree climber and like @AZ_HighCountry said, if that ever happens, then God help us all.

Let's see what the US has achieved thus far:

- Nuclear program and the billions spent on it has been greatly setback, with pickaxe being next on the list
- The billions we spent on the navy has been completely eradicated, reduced to fishing boats.
- Top leadership and generals killed off one by one with impunity
-The Economy has literally collapsed and is now the size of a small country like Kuwait
- We have suffered $150+ Billion worth of damages
- Iranian airspace is now constantly violated on a daily basis and casualties are mounting up without any appropriate response or measures
- Thousands of Iranians are dead and millions displaced
- Our Air Defense has also took a beating, to the point that incursions can now be made inside Iran
- Though underground missile storage and manufacturing is intact, no one can deny the beating we took from missile launchers, crews, and command sites being vastly targeted throughout
- Hezbollah has been greatly weakened and received a proper beating from the IDF

The list goes on.

Ironically, the one thing this retarded caveman regime has always neglected and spat on is still operational and had a bigger impact than any missile or naval vessel used thus far and that's our airforce.

 

[KingQamaR]

Lol. Jeets still jeeting.

How many Iranians, Palestinians and Lebanese have been killed by military materiel supplied by India to phatherland? Not even one hundred Nobel Prize nominations can actually kill an Iranian.

One common thread that unites India and Israel hatred of all Muslims and Islam .

India country supplied ammo and ammunition when Israel asked for during Israel invasion and ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Like many normal Pakistanis we are confused. How does Iran benefit from this? I get how India benefits. Not so sure about Iran.

Middle Eastern countries are known for not being the sharpest tools in box ️…. brother.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Who's talking about a final desperate attack you silly tree climber and like @AZ_HighCountry said, if that ever happens, then God help us all.

Let's see what the US has achieved thus far:

- Nuclear program and the billions spent on it has been greatly setback, with pickaxe being next on the list
- The billions we spent on the navy has been completely eradicated, reduced to fishing boats.
- Top leadership and generals killed off one by one with impunity
-The Economy has literally collapsed and is now the size of a small country like Kuwait
- We have suffered $150+ Billion worth of damages
- Iranian airspace is now constantly violated on a daily basis and casualties are mounting up without any appropriate response or measures
- Thousands of Iranians are dead and millions displaced
- Our Air Defense has also took a beating, to the point that incursions can now be made inside Iran
- Though underground missile storage and manufacturing is intact, no one can deny the beating we took from missile launchers, crews, and command sites being vastly targeted throughout
- Hezbollah has been greatly weakened and received a proper beating from the IDF

The list goes on.

Ironically, the one thing this retarded caveman regime has always neglected and spat on is still operational and had a bigger impact than any missile or naval vessel used thus far and that's our airforce.

Interesting how you and I, an Iranian and an American, can agree on things. And, I know there are others.

As with @ShapurII , I'd have no issue with having a coffee and breaking bread with you.

 

[Abdul q]

And closing land frontier... please don´t forget.
Hope everything finishes soon. Pak and Ir are friendly nations, and even with differences are doomed to be partners for everything. Trade and Security, not to mention Health (OMS) and Culture (a lot of shia inside Pak).

I hope so but I ‘d say something about Iran as well, I know we could have avoided this all through diplomacy but historically Iran has always favoured India even though they let your 300+ unarmed sailors sink … are pussraeli close ally, weapon exporters and what not… idk what’s up with that

 

[Eşbah]

I don't think this is normal. Yeah, I agree with @Immortals that Iran's tactic of shutting down the Strait of Hormuz has failed miserably, as I predicted after Iran accepted the MoU and the US attacked southern Iran a few months ago to weaken our control over the strait, but this is beyond just risk assessment.

He's right, though.

There is no shortage of crude oil in the markets right now, which is quite puzzling considering the threats previously issued by the IRI.

By now, it has become clear to me that the economic conditions within Iran are so dire that the leadership in Tehran is hesitant to impose a full blockade, fearing for the safety and future of its own survival. The domestic and economic situation is so terrible that the consequences of completely sealing off Hormuz are deemed too risky for Tehran in the middle and longterm outlook.

When you reflect on this with unflinching honesty and analytical thought, the picture that emerges in your mind is quite alarming if not outright frightening. 40 years went down the drain for what?! An entire generations period of productivity. Gone. So, I understand people's anger.

But it is also clear to me that the fate that befell Iran could also become Turkey's, Pakistan’s, Saudi Arabia's, or Egypt's future in the next ~25 years.

As I mentioned before, just two or three significant blunders in foreign policy making can lead a nation to lose everything. This is why I have always refrained from passing judgment on entire nations; you can never truly know what might happen.

 

[Eşbah]

Meanwhile Iraq is exporting oil as much as it did before the war, mainly via Turkey and Syria. The country is basically making a profit now from the ongoing war:



Iraq has increased its oil exports via the Turkish port of Ceyhan to 500,000 barrels per day—a step aimed to bolster crude oil export outlets away from the Strait of Hormuz, according to the energy-focused website OilPrice.

Iraq has started using tanker trucks to deliver Basra crude to the country’s northern pipeline network. The port of Ceyhan is now exporting about 200,000 barrels of Basra crude per day. The oil is transported from southern oil fields to collecting facilities in Iraqi Kurdistan before being pumped toward the Turkish port.

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Iraqi Oil Minister Basim Khudair reported last month that the country’s oil exports reached pre-war levels in October, surpassing 3.4 million barrels per day.

https://www.iraqinews.com/iraq/iraqs-oil-exports-via-turkey-rise-to-500000-barrels-per-day/

 

[tower9]

Trump's VP and his son have now both come out publicly against his war with Iran. This is quite incredible.

I voted for Trump and I stayed home. I actually want him and his entire family behind bars now.

 

[Eşbah]

A second Turkish soldier has tragically lost his life at the Iranian border in a brief span of time.




The government claims that he ‘suddenly fell ill,’ but few people find this explanation credible.

 

[BigMela2onin]

The government claims that he ‘suddenly fell ill,’ but few people find this explanation credible.

What explanation are people finding credible? Are they being shot dead?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Interesting how you and I, an Iranian and an American, can agree on things. And, I know there are others.

It's not interesting that you can agree with people on things. I would say that it's "interesting" that you've dehumanized Iranians so much you think that simply agreeing with one is strange to you, but perhaps "interesting" isn't the right word to use there.
And what exactly are you agreeing on here? The US's willingness to inflict mass civilian casualties as retribution?

As with @ShapurII , I'd have no issue with having a coffee and breaking bread with you.

It's not surprising you're willing to have coffee with people who have advocated for Iranian subservience to the US. I assume they'd be the ones buying you coffee in that situation.