Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

الان این کوس خل ها فکر میک نند با پیروز نشدن نتانیاهو در انتخابات اسرائیل شق القمر کردند ، کودن ها ، آیزنکات کسیه که دکترین ضاحیه رو داد که باعث نابودی حزب الله و حماس و سوریه شد و کشیدن شدن حملات اسرائیل به تهران شد ...

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1km is when it detonates on impact just above the ground. Or a hollywood backpack dirty bomb scenario.
You would ofcourse need to detonate it at 3000m altitude more or less depending on the wind and use liquid gas that is heavier than air(ie. Co2) to disperse heu dust to a large area expanding and descending to the ground. In that case the radiation footprint would have a much larger radius. I am sure there are prototypes that Iran has and it is much different than the classic dirty bomb example that is detonated on the ground.
No, it is when it detonates in the air. If it detonates on the ground, it will be much less effective than that. Only a few streets or blocks at most.

Where to hit is another issue. Hitting farmlands would cripple any form of sustainable living there for a long time. Hitting population centers like tel aviv would make the place long term very hazardous to live. There would be a lot of cancer cases and birth defects if people would opt to live on those areas. Which is very deterrent even if the long term effects take 10 years. The effects will be there
It doesn't change what I said though. At the best case scenario, you'll poison tens of thousands of people with high doses of radiation and make the place inhabitable for years. In return, you'll get millions of Iranians dead, millions of Iranians injured with third-degree burns and radiation poisoning, and millions homeless. The entire Iranian healthcare system will collapse, food reserves will be destroyed, nothing will remain of the Iranian civilization for decades. Not in anyway comparable.

I mentioned this option after isreal or usa uses their nukes so I think it should be pretty understandable. That is having a deterrent option AFTER millions of your people are tergeted by potential usa-isreal nukes. Not before as an initiater but as an option of deterrence. So no nukes will be used on you. I dont know why you keep misunderstanding this.
Yes, I understood and even in that case, it's still a bad plan because that's not how nuclear war plays out.

The US won't just nuke all Iranian cities at once. It will strike one or two targets with tactical nukes, like the Pickaxe Mountain, then move up the escalation ladder slowly to always keep some options for the case Iran decides to escalate. They will keep their options open for retaliation and deterrence.

There's no way that dirty bombs are in any way deterrent against strategic nukes. Dirty bombs are even less effective than chemical bombs.

he is not saying Iran should initiate a nuclear exchange with Israel. he is saying it's a back up plan for Iran to have some form of credible deterrent against a nuclear strike short of a functional nuclear warhead.
Already answered. That's not how nuclear war plays out. It's not a backup and in no shape or form it's a form of "credible deterrence" against strategic nukes that can destroy multiple cities like Tehran, Karaj and Pardis at once.
 
This is what i said to some people here

It doesn't matter if the missiles headed towards Europe are all intercepted or hits with a 1km radius

Just the people seeing enemy missiles traveling to their targets with interceptors launched in the sky of Berlin or London with huge explosions from above, this will completely terrorize them and achieve a huge psychological impact
But until Iran launches those missiles at EU countries facilitating US strikes on Iran ,iran's threat to attack EU is just what it is - threats ! But meanwhile, Russia has used saboteurs attacking defense facilities ,cyber attacks, drone invasions, immigration , strikes on shipping , threats to underwater sea cables and more etc to destabilize some EU countries, which have had a clear and noticeable impact on the EU.
 
الان این کوس خل ها فکر میک نند با پیروز نشدن نتانیاهو در انتخابات اسرائیل شق القمر کردند ، کودن ها ، آیزنکات کسیه که دکترین ضاحیه رو داد که باعث نابودی حزب الله و حماس و سوریه شد و کشیدن شدن حملات اسرائیل به تهران شد ...

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As long as we have people in the system who think they can survive this if they keep the status quo for 2 years for Trump to leave the office, things will only get worse.

This is the end. People who haven't realized it yet will continue to be slapped until they wake up. The only option left is to build nuclear weapons or wait to turn into the next Syria.
 
Offcourse it made sense for Iran to focus more of it's attacks against US instead of israel,because the US military was doing more damage to Iran than Israel. Simple!


Israel is trying to get USA to send their troops in while “supports them” Remember Iraq? And how Israel “ warned” that they had WMDs? And sent thousands western troops to die and caused thousands of civilian deaths. Middle Eastern countries are so stupid Israelis is your problem of all
this.
Iran needs to fight Israel cause as much damage she can when Jews feel the heat and destruction they will call their lapdogs off. And a negotiated settlement will be asked.
 
This is what i said to some people here

It doesn't matter if the missiles headed towards Europe are all intercepted or hits with a 1km radius

Just the people seeing enemy missiles traveling to their targets with interceptors launched in the sky of Berlin or London with huge explosions from above, this will completely terrorize them and achieve a huge psychological impact

it would be wonderful for american military industrial complex, to keep increasing european nato members military budgets until the infinite.
 
We always blame certain people for negotiating with the US instead of the system, while it is an issue with the entirety of the system itself.

How many of these people have left the system, or got killed, but the result is still the same?
Yes, that's true. I try to say IRI and not blame one person. The reformists are clearly the most retarded and naive of all groups in Iran.

Either Mojtaba is another dove like his father or no one is listening to him.

 
As long as we have people in the system who think they can survive this if they keep the status quo for 2 years for Trump to leave the office, things will only get worse.

This is the end. People who haven't realized it yet will continue to be slapped until they wake up. The only option left is to build nuclear weapons or wait to turn into the next Syria.

The fact that Iran managed to thwart the attacks by the combined forces of Israel and the US while also inflicting significant damage on Israeli territory and American military bases in the Gulf is already a defeat for the US and Israel. I don't see this conflict escalating any further. In my view, the war is approaching its end.
 
@Persian Gulf

Maybe Trump was right that they hit a new air defense system in Qeshm?
We must have a lot of them if they keep hitting it every day. He probably means 'new' 358 systems sent to Qeshm that the US keeps striking after they intercept US drones.

On a different topic, I think Hajizadeh deserves a lot of respect for his role in Iran's missile program. He led the program for decades, and was the pioneer of UGFs. However, he was fundamentally incorrect about so many things, and that has had massive consequences.
 
@Persian Gulf

Maybe Trump was right that they hit a new air defense system in Qeshm?

If you had an expensive and capable air defense system there is no need to station it on qeshm it can fire from farther inland safely.

What is likely on Qesh is very short range truck mounted launchers (like 358) and a corresponding to track aerial threats. They probably fire drones or 358 from a truck. Hide the truck and run. U.S. BOMBS the truck.

The U.S. has been bombing Qeshm for 6 weeks. It doesn’t take 6 weeks to eliminate the radar or air defense of a small island.
 

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