Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Just want everyone to have a good laugh.

Hope our "American" Members don't get upset...

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Please feel free to tell us which is the reason they managed to decrease de oil price.

Many reasons:
  • Despite the attacks, oil coming out of the Middle East is 14-15MBPD
  • Chinese oil imports still have not reach pre war levels
  • Demand destruction around the world due to the high prices
  • US is entering the cold season where seasonality has prices fall in gasoline

So why should Trump negotiate with Iran and give Iran anything? It makes more sense to be patient and wait 3-6 months to see if Iranian demands soften. That’s basic negotiation 101. The situation is a lot different than March 2026 when the Strait of Hormuz was COMPLETELY closed. Now it’s mostly open. Thus Iranian leverage has largely evaporated and the SENSE OF URGENCY to strike a deal is gone.
 
If US is actually winning and has all the leverage , can you explain why Iran hasn't really budged in its demands from US re conditions to end the war and open the strait?, until you explain the steadfastness of the Iranian side in its negotiations with US,

Because it’s a classic negotiation dilemma. The demands Iran made was based on the reality in March 2026 and June 2026. Not the reality in November 2026. Iran has lost alot of its leverage courtesy of retards like Qalibaf and Rezaei.

It is the same problem in Ukraine, Zelensky still thinks it’s June 2022 where Russia was retreating from Ukraine in large amounts and regrouping. He doesn’t want to admit the realities on the ground in 2026.

But Iran has doubled down in desperation to get back to MoU. The issue is the reason it got the MoU in June was because it had control of the strait. It no longer has control and at best it can harass tankers. But 20 tankers go in and 10% get hit means 90% came out. Not enough to revert oil output back to April 2026 levels.

So Iran backed itself into a corner demanding the 7 principles of MoU be fulfilled. Now that reality has changed, it chose to double down. Once you double down, any retreat is considered major weakness by your enemy. So iran has no moves to play outside of escalation. Which again goes against Iranian strategic patience. So they are once again under No War No Peace due to a Khamenai.

Rezaie is not the idiot you make him out to be, so I suggest you cool down on the rhetoric against him, but that's just my suggestion, you can continue to belittle him and face the embarrassment when he's proven right in the end.

Rezaie is an old man. The human brain is in its peak form from 30 years old to 50 years old. Beyond that age it degrades and gets risk averse and reeks of prejudice. That is the problem too many nations don’t realize today, having these old men lead such complex foreign policy matters is not wisdom, it’s idiocy.

How many of you would let your grandfathers make the most important decisions in your life right now? Let alone the fate of a country.
 

Iran unveils new missile city during senior military commanders' visit​

 
Iran made US quit militarily

US was feeling like hyperpower after venezuela now they feel like they can't even overthrow a country with 1/100 their defence budget.

Must be hard getting that reality check for a war monger nation
 
It seems obvious that Trump has "bombarded" Turkey, Iran, Turkmenistan, and Pakistan with sanctions and tariffs if they keep their borders open.

That is beyond any doubt.
..and SOON, these same countries ,and other countries of the world will ask US- "why should we recognize and follow sanctions you declare on nations you have problems with ,when you yourself is bankrupt?"
 

Price of oil is going down not because Iran's leverage against US and GCC reduced. It's going down because the market is accepting that Iran has won the war, so the matter is more or less settled.

Unless US musters a strike on Iran soon that changes iran's govt calculations or decisions, Or/and degrades Iran's military capabilities effectively, then Iran has won the war, and better for US to accept that sooner than later, because we know from the Ukraine war what happens when you(stupid Nazi Ukraine), lose a war, but still play stubborn against the Victor- you have to accept way worse conditions and give much more in concessions to the winner.
 
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Many reasons:
  • Despite the attacks, oil coming out of the Middle East is 14-15MBPD
  • Chinese oil imports still have not reach pre war levels
  • Demand destruction around the world due to the high prices
  • US is entering the cold season where seasonality has prices fall in gasoline

So why should Trump negotiate with Iran and give Iran anything? It makes more sense to be patient and wait 3-6 months to see if Iranian demands soften. That’s basic negotiation 101. The situation is a lot different than March 2026 when the Strait of Hormuz was COMPLETELY closed. Now it’s mostly open. Thus Iranian leverage has largely evaporated and the SENSE OF URGENCY to strike a deal is gone.
So. You can assure us that there is no manipulation of oíl market using strategic reserves or/and news about any hypothetical "agreement" at all, can you?.

Ok. I will label your post and see if in the future oíl would continue below 90 USD barrel.
 
A second version of Netanyahu in Iran



English Translation:
A shopkeeper in Iran is being boycotted because he looks a lot like Netanyahu.The shopkeeper, who has no customers, says he’s fed up with the situation.

Not AI, it is real person

it's the second bibi double that i ve seen in this forum.

both doubles lack something from real one: the pure evil and arrogant stare.
 

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