Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Irán must respond to regain escalation dominance.

It should aim to destroy one military target completely this time.

400 missile attack seems about right and this needs to happen within days and not weeks.

They are good at playing games, Iran must consider that Israel chose a weak response to show "weakness" and tempt Iran to respond back. So Israel could play the antisemite victim card and use nukes. Or maybe target refineries and nuclear reactors this time. They wanted to do this but was convinced by US to not do it. So maybe they will use the new Iranian response as justification by saying that the US failed to deescalate the situation.

 

[The SC]

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[Dalit]

They are good at playing games, Iran must consider that Israel chose a weak response to show "weakness" and tempt Iran to respond back. So Israel could play the antisemite victim card and use nukes.

Respond heavy-handedly. A good opportunity.

 

[UKBengali]

Respond heavy-handedly. A good opportunity.

Irán needs to slap the spoilt brat down once and for all.

 

[ToddE]

Iran has some s-300 systems (which has shown to be very vulnerable), some domestic systems (none of which have any real world data), and some older outdated systems....and that's about it.

I would think before talking but probably thats just me.

Iranian local made HIMADS/SHORADS, Search/track assets are more potent than S-300 PMU2. You need to read more before making foolish claims here about "real world data". ROFL

https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...sets-of-iran-current-and-possibilities.14225/

 

[hasn2009]

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[Mobius]

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[mangekyo]

Respond heavy-handedly. A good opportunity.

One must not get carried away, overconfident and underestimate the enemy. Especially a genocidal maniac like Israel. But it seems at least for now, that beside nukes, and Mossad spies, IDF has a very limited capability to strike Iran. So Iran has the upper hand here.

 

[ToddE]

Foolish trolling aside by some here, I will say this is a victory for Iran.

In this entire conflict:

Military Aspect

- IRGC-AF successfully breached the most densely gaurded IADS on earth, the 2nd October Strike was just something that world never saw before, barrages and barrages of RVs/GVs breaching Israeli AD and landing on targets. Capability demonstrated against the worlds greatest foe that controls superpowers, that can take billions out of anyones treasury, can get the most advanced weaponry delivered to its doorstep ! Thats something for a sanctioned state.

Strategic Aspect (More Important)

- Did they cause immense damage? no because Iranian leadership wanted to control the escalation ladder which is why we are seeing this joke of a "retaliation" by Israel. A dog and a Pony Show from both sides. This means that Ayatollahs are smarter than they seem. They have shown the means to harass the enemy to come to the table when they needed. The entire time between the Iranian strike and this clown show by Israel, our FM was in the air, landing here and there doing what he is supposed to do and he succeeded in pushing the enemy to come to Iranian terms "Steam out in front of your public, do a fake show and get the F out", that happened. Iran definitely has something to blackmail otherwise why did Israel not target Iranian nuclear sites or Air bases or IRGC HQs that runs the show from yemen to Lebanon? Because backdoor diplomacy is a better way out for Israel which is what we are seeing and congratulations to Iran, our country is sentient.

- First time we are also seeing US not taking the Israeli side. American case with Iran is a curious one IMO. Why did the AIPAC run US government failed to provide the heat Israel wanted to direct at Iran? I will say the American deep state is not as stupid or Jewish-controlled as people make it out to be. Their dealings with Iran or their overall Iranian Policy is just not entirely dependent upon Israeli wishes. Credit goes to Ayatollah's diplomats for keeping the channels active.

- Iran IMO should not retaliate, we have taken this round successfully. Lets just continue building our nation. We rank 9th in the STEM R&D output in the world, lets go to top 5, we ranked Ist in the world for medal/athlete in Olympics, lets make that 0.5+, lets kick our Sats from LEO to GEO, just progress ...

 

[OldTwilight]

Iranian stocks market react positively to this attack and become green.

 

[Sarhang]

True. Endless propaganda from both sides.

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[UKBengali]

I am guessing the Zionist entity launched ALBMs here as that is the only option they have. Maybe also cruise missiles but Iran would find it relatively easy to shoot those down.

@Emirzad Would be interesting to see how many of these ALBMs Iran managed to shoot down. Hopefully Bavar-373 was able to get some firing solutions on them.

 

[UKBengali]

2) Finally we can put to rest the idea Iran can defend it's air space. It simply cannot. Israel either launched long range missiles from far away and a safe distance or it flew over Iran with impunity. Either way the effect was the same, targets seem to be hit and no Israeli aircraft (we know about as of yet) have been lost. Iran's deterrence is in it's offensive missile capabilities, not it's air defence.

No Zionist planes got anywhere close to Iran. Logistics does not compute.

We have no evidence any missiles impacted anything yet. Let us wait and see for damage assessment to come out.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Iran struggled to destroy Israeli targets, we saw that from the previous two rounds. If Israel has actually destroyed some targets then shows the difference in approach where Israel can cause actual harm and Iran can only do “signalling “.

Iran has admitted that Israel inflicted limited Damage but has not disclosed what was actually hit.

This attack shows IDF's ability to sustain multiple waves of attack against Iran in single compaign using drones and Ballistic Missiles.
And I believe they have many more strike options in their pocket for doomsday scenario.(Like using Stealthy LMs for target acquisition)

Of course ,Iran can also respond proportionately provided that US does not directly participates in war.

 

[MS Sandhu]

No Zionist planes got anywhere close to Iran. Logistics does not compute.

We have no evidence any missiles impacted anything yet. Let us wait and see for damage assessment to come out.

Some drones were seen right over Tehran.I think they were launched by Fighter Jets.

And what is the limited Damage if nothing got through?