Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[MS Sandhu]

There is no evidence of this. We have only heard reports of two or three targeted strikes and nothing more, and a very small strike compared to the amount of propaganda previously carried out that the MoE would never doubt Israel's military superiority.

Evidence is all there.
SAMs are supposed to defend Iranian assets but we are seeing they are highly ineffective.(Either Israelis are too smart or Iranian Air Defence crew is poorly trained)
Israel simply uses its drones to locate them and then hits them with highly accurate ALBMs.
The death of Air Defence Personnels indicates that these systems were not isolated but properly manned up when Israel hit them.

Iranian Air Force is literally non-existent to challenge the enemy.
Its like a man breaks your door,shoots you from door step and returns unchallenged.


Why do you think they cannot replicate this strategy for sustained compaign in doomsday scenario?

 

[UKBengali]

Looks like a lot of Zio-US missiles were actually intercepted. These look like cruise missiles and they seem to be taken out by anti-aircraft artillery.

 

[UKBengali]

I know Iran won't do it but it's not a bad idea. If Iran does that a few times in response to IDF killing of civilians, Israel will stop. The damage to infra and military sites for Israel is no deterrent.

Iran on October 1st was actively not trying to harm the Zios.

Radar sites need to be manned and even in weapon producing factories at night there will always be some people there.

Rather than strike vast airbases, it can go for smaller targets and have a good chance of taking out some Zios at the same time. It proved 10-30m accuracy on October 1st and so it can reliably hit much smaller sites and facilities.

 

[Bengal71]

Iran on October 1st was actively not trying to harm the Zios.

Radar sites need to be manned and even in weapon producing factories at night there will always be some people there.

Rather than strike vast airbases, it can go for smaller targets and have a good chance of taking out some Zios at the same time. It proved 10-30m accuracy on October 1st and so it can reliably hit much smaller sites and facilities.

That's not the point.

To establish deterrence, Iran needs to go for an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth doctrine.

They should hit civilian buildings, hospitals, shopping malls and the like with the intention of causing mass civilian casualty.

Israel doesn't target military sites, it targets civilians deliberately. So, doing that will be the only deterrence.

 

[MS Sandhu]

They posted the following content when we literally saw proof of interceptions taking place:

Some drones were intercepted by AA guns ( those drones travelled all the way to Tehran to distract point defences while CMs may have hit the actual target ) . No ALBM was intercepted.

And WZ qoutes officials from both sides.i see nothing wrong with that.

 

[jauk]

This is a terrible source. Anti uranium.

 

[Awwad]

Irán must respond to regain escalation dominance.

It should aim to destroy one military target completely this time.

400 missile attack seems about right and this needs to happen within days and not weeks.

Nope. Iran will do nothing as I had told few days earlier. We discussed it few days ago. It happened exactly as I predicted:

1- Israel will attack
2- Israel will only do a limited strike
3- Israeli missiles will not be intercepted.
4- Iran will ignore the attack, downplaying it as "insignificant". (Which it is )
5- Situation deescalates.

Iran will not do counter attack because Iran only responds when it absolutely must. Iran has never initiated any attack first. It always did a response to direct Israeli actions. First attack on Israel was response to Israeli bombardment of Iranian embassy and annihilating several Iranian Generals & officials. Second attack was in response to assassination of Haniyah within Iranian soil, who was a state guest of Iran. So Iran will not respond to a limited strike, unless extra ordinary circumstances are created again. Iran would love to de-escalate at this point. Israelis wants the same as they are busy in Gaza & Lebanon and don't want to open another direct front.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Jordan the bitch needs to be dealt with. I suggest taking out a few palaces of the royal family with royal family members dead.

That's a good suggestion.
If you are going to hit Jordan,just kill its monarch otherwise plz do not bother.

 

[Yasser76]

Jordan the bitch needs to be dealt with. I suggest taking out a few palaces of the royal family with royal family members dead.

Guess sitting behind an anonymous internet ID and wishing death upon a family that has always support Pakistan is allowed on the forum these days

 

[925boy]

Israeli army spokesman, Daniel Hagari:

I can now confirm that the Israeli response to the Iranian attacks against Israel has been completed.

We carried out precision strikes on military targets in Iran, thwarting direct threats to the State of Israel.The IDF accomplished its mission.

If the regime in Iran makes the mistake of starting a new round of escalation, we will be obligated to respond.

Our message is clear: anyone who threatens the State of Israel and seeks to drag the region into a broader escalation will pay a heavy price.

Today we proved that we have the ability and determination to act decisively, and we are prepared, to attack and defend the State and people of Israel.

When 100 Israeli F35s and missiles and "advanced technologies" cannot do any reql damage to Iran, that tells that Gaza and Lebanon have knocked the wind out of genocider Israel. That's almost miraculous imo.

 

[UKBengali]

Jordan the bitch needs to be dealt with. I suggest taking out a few palaces of the royal family with royal family members dead.

That was obvious collaboration from the Toy King.

A manpad could have shot down those Zionist F-35s as they flew only hundreds of metres above Amman on their way to attack Iran.

This muppet helps shoot down Iranian projectiles in the name of safeguarding Jordianian "sovereignty" but then blatantly works with the Zionist entity in order to attack Iran.

 

[ghazi52]

Israel strikes Iran: Israel carried out what it described as "precise strikes" on military targets in Iran, saying it was responding to "months of continuous attacks from the regime in Iran" – an Israeli response had been widely anticipated after Iran’s ballistic missile attack on 1 October.

Iran's response: Iran said the attacks on its military bases were successfully countered and there was "limited damage". The Iranian army said two of its soldiers were killed, according to Iran's state media agency IRNA. Responding to the Israeli attack, the Iranian foreign ministry said Iran is "entitled and obliged to defend itself".

International response: Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates and Qatar condemned the strikes, and warned against escalation. The White House said it understood Israel's strikes were an "exercise of self-defence", and a senior administration official urged Iran not to retaliate.

 

[UKBengali]

Some drones were intercepted by AA guns ( those drones travelled all the way to Tehran to distract point defences while CMs may have hit the actual target ) . No ALBM was intercepted.

And WZ qoutes officials from both sides.i see nothing wrong with that.

Those were too fast to be drones and more likely cruise missiles we saw being shot down.

Only ALBMs would have been able to get through Iranian IADS.

 

[Lulldapull]

The role of drones was crucial, used to expose the SAM sites and BM/CM took them out

This was an excellent teaming b/w Manned & Un-manned assets.
You cannot do this sort of attack with-out a strong air force.

No drones were used paa G. Hair force launched aero ballistic mayziles fraam 1000 km away. Hair force can’t come cloaj to Iran.

 

[Mehdipersian]

i think its a drone manufacturer

No it's not