Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

What will come first the Iranian attack or another Israeli murder of Iranians inside Iran? Iran was talking big after 4 of their soldiers were slaughtered and still there is no response.

What do you mean??? Iran is supplying the resistance, everyday they fire into Israel with Iranian mate or supplied weapons and missiles

Iran doesn't need to showboat, all it needs to do is keep Israel in a constant state of conflict and support the resistance

Creating such intense hatred for the Jew within the Muslim world and in the middle east is vital to ensure a unjust peace is impossible and the pressure on the Jews will eventually achieve a breakthrough

 

[Snake]

Iran is not going by your timeline.

True, it's going by the Israeli one which is fine with me. I expected more from Iran though.

 

[ToddE]

Iran said the upgraded Bavar-373(current production version) is on par or better than S-400.

The version of S-300PMU2 they have is pretty much a S-400 minus the long range 400km missiles as it had used so many S-400 components, since S-300 production had stopped in 2010s when Iran was supplied with them.

Correct, S-300 PMU2/3 was initially referred to as S-400.

Bavar-373 is more S-400 than anything.

 

[Snake]

LOL and thousands of Israelis have died with Iranian-made weapons in the hands of Iranian-run groups present on the borders of Israel within a year.

In America there's a saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" by extension of your logic if Russia gives Iran a Russian weapon and Iranians use it to kill Israelis it was the Russians who deserve credit?

What do you mean??? Iran is supplying the resistance, everyday they fire into Israel with Iranian mate or supplied weapons and missiles

Iran doesn't need to showboat, all it needs to do is keep Israel in a constant state of conflict and support the resistance

Creating such intense hatred for the Jew within the Muslim world and in the middle east is vital to ensure a unjust peace is impossible and the pressure on the Jews will eventually achieve a breakthrough

Nasrallah, Nilforshan, Haniyeh, Zahedi all high ranking officials within Iranian related organizations. Name a single Israeli the Iranians have managed to take out.

 

[jauk]

True, it's going by the Israeli one which is fine with me. I expected more from Iran though.

I’m sure you did.

 

[tsunset]

True, it's going by the Israeli one which is fine with me. I expected more from Iran though.

Time will tell, Iran took a month before tp2

I expect a bigger or equal tp2 attack, but rhis time with real intended damage and not deliberatly aiming at empty spots to "send a message"

I expect no or very little deaths as Iran has a hard time killing people especially civilians, Iran avoided that at all cost but this could change as they killed 4 army members, so targeting of IDF troops or AD sites/radars/weapon manufacture, with 1-5 AD member killed/seriously injured is a proportionate response

 

[ToddE]

In America there's a saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" by extension of your logic if Russia gives Iran a Russian weapon and Iranians use it to kill Israelis it was the Russians who deserve credit?

Except that Russians are not controlling Iran but Iran controls these groups that kill Israelis daily. 4 Iranian soldiers vs thousands of Israelis/IDF .... try better troll

 

[tsunset]

Except that Russians are not controlling Iran but Iran controls these groups that kill Israelis daily. 4 Iranian soldiers vs thousands of Israelis/IDF .... try better troll

War and operations doesn't resume to "the more you kill, the more you win"

No one should use this logic to tell who is the winner and whos the loser based on kill count including civilians

This logic is mainly used by western people, especially Americans, that looks the kill count to determine who won

 

[jauk]

In America there's a saying "guns don't kill people, people kill people" by extension of your logic if Russia gives Iran a Russian weapon and Iranians use it to kill Israelis it was the Russians who deserve credit?



Nasrallah, Nilforshan, Haniyeh, Zahedi all high ranking officials within Iranian related organizations. Name a single Israeli the Iranians have managed to take out.

Irrelevant. You’ve not only entirely missed the whole episode but you’ve missed the whole season to boot.

 

[jauk]

Except that Russians are not controlling Iran but Iran controls these groups that kill Israelis daily. 4 Iranian soldiers vs thousands of Israelis/IDF .... try better troll

Correct! Not to mention a strategic defeat that will last well into the future.

Tit for tat my foot.

 

[p200]

War and operations doesn't resume to "the more you kill, the more you win"

No one should use this logic to tell who is the winner and whos the loser based on kill count including civilians

This logic is mainly used by western people, especially Americans, that looks the kill count to determine who won

Now you are contradicting your original point which is 'Iran should respond to it's soldiers that were killed'.

You started by counting who killed how many and now say it doesn't matter the number killed.

 

[StrategicBear]

Time will tell, Iran took a month before tp2

I expect a bigger or equal tp2 attack, but rhis time with real intended damage and not deliberatly aiming at empty spots to "send a message"

I expect no or very little deaths as Iran has a hard time killing people especially civilians, Iran avoided that at all cost but this could change as they killed 4 army members, so targeting of IDF troops or AD sites/radars/weapon manufacture, with 1-5 AD member killed/seriously injured is a proportionate response

In war, proportionate response is impossible. You win wars by inflicting more enemy casualties than your own. Why hold back? We ain't afraid of no nukes, we only fear God.

 

[Snake]

Time will tell, Iran took a month before tp2

I expect a bigger or equal tp2 attack, but rhis time with real intended damage and not deliberatly aiming at empty spots to "send a message"

I expect no or very little deaths as Iran has a hard time killing people especially civilians, Iran avoided that at all cost but this could change as they killed 4 army members, so targeting of IDF troops or AD sites/radars/weapon manufacture, with 1-5 AD member killed/seriously injured is a proportionate response

If it happens as you say (or more damaging to the Israelis) and before another Israeli attack I will be happy to eat my words.

Except that Russians are not controlling Iran but Iran controls these groups that kill Israelis daily. 4 Iranian soldiers vs thousands of Israelis/IDF .... try better troll

So you claim their victories of killing thousands of Israelis but discard all of their losses? Do you know how many Hamas, Hezbollah have died? If this is the Iranian attitude watch how quickly the rest of the militia Iran "controls" turn on them.

What did the 4 Iranian soldiers die for? Troll.

Correct! Not to mention a strategic defeat that will last well into the future.

Tit for tat my foot.

See above.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Contrary to initial optimism, it is unfortunately becoming clearer by the day that the Israeli attack was a powerful one.
Many prominent factories and radars were destroyed, many
Many soldiers and civilians lost their lives, and it is becoming visually apparent that the missiles used on some of the structures were far more powerful than those used by Iran.
I think the Iranian leadership is reeling from the unexpected body blow.
Already in Israel, there is a mood of optimism that Iran is weak, and hard-line arguments are erupting for attacking its nuclear facilities.
The Iranian leadership is probably making last-minute deliberations on whether to continue to bend the knee to Trump and seek negotiations, or whether to launch a counterattack at the drop of a hat.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Contrary to initial optimism, it is unfortunately becoming clearer by the day that the Israeli attack was a powerful one.
Many prominent factories and radars were destroyed, many
Many soldiers and civilians lost their lives, and it is becoming visually apparent that the missiles used on some of the structures were far more powerful than those used by Iran.
I think the Iranian leadership is reeling from the unexpected body blow.
Already in Israel, there is a mood of optimism that Iran is weak, and hard-line arguments are erupting for attacking its nuclear facilities.
The Iranian leadership is probably making last-minute deliberations on whether to continue to bend the knee to Trump and seek negotiations, or whether to launch a counterattack at the drop of a hat.

The Israeli attack hit 3 radars and some empty buildings. Nothing more.

The only important point is their ability to strike accurately, which is American technology