Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Yes I am younger probably than you, thank you for being civil

I still think that the Islamic Republic is inept, but that is just my opinion. We need a true nationalist government.
Yes I'm old as.... Always civil 😊 You're as entitled as everyone else to an opinion.
 
Bunker-busting bombs generally need to hit the target at a specific angle and at maximum speed to maximize their penetration. This requirement results in a drastic reduction in the weapon's range compared to conventional weapons, somewhere between 20 - 40 km.

In addition to their slow speed and predictable trajectory, the large size of these bombs and the hard shell required to penetrate deep into the target make bunker-busting bombs an easy target for air defense systems.

War is not as simple as B2 and F-35.

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it seems the US knows very well it is unable to destroy Iran's nuclear infrastructure and it is bluffing to force IRI to negotiate
 
Gents the US nor Israel will nor can do much here no?

To bring down Iran and install that Bahai king again, its goin need fukkin boots on da ground and nobody willing to commit to dat no?

Its just hollow threats flyin back n forth.......its neaar impossible to disarm Iran.......

Trumps just so fulla shit no?

Theys strugglin in Yemen and in da Sy-Raaq and its costing a whole lotta money.

All Trump's telling Iran is to come on over to its side and stop fukkin around.
 
I could be reading it wrong but it looks like various Trump administration officials are coming out with statements that make it seem like they are backing away from the corner they put themselves in.

Iran called their bluff.
They might very well be playing mind games to bring Iran to negotiation table OR they might be planning a shock-n-awe operation like they did in Iraq. Let's see.
 
Attack against Iran?
  • Iran-Russia strategic Alliance Pact already signed
  • China - Iran port deal , already in place , China has stake

3-4 Strategic bombers most they can do is impact 0.001% of Iranian land with their payload

Sure when you look at Iran's Map , you imagine it is a very small region but it is a Huge Land (SQ MILE) almost big as Saudi Arabia
The world maps are drawn in a very unnatural format , often not showing to true size of Nations comparative to others

Much need to be understood , about Russia's role have they negotiated anything specific to Iran or not ? Ukraine does not seem to value peace deal and continues to mess around with Russia. Hitting Russian power grids even after recent peace attempts.


What would Russia do if US based Peace deal , is not respected by Ukraine , do you think they will leave Iran on sideline and just watch ?

Was Donald Trump so convincing , that after declaring Tarrifs on all Nation of World , people would be interested in attacking Iran?



When Iran showcased the Super Sonic Missiles , there was no defense against it
  • They could have hit high value targets but they did not , this was of course before the Genocide in Gaza really expanded
  • The missiles travel and reach targets in 45 seconds to 2 minutes or less

What really is part of the Russia-Iran Strategic Alliance deal ?
 
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How many Super sonic Missiles has Iran mass produced , for past 6 months ? Since last firing on Israel ? Do you think they have been just sitting around twiddling their fingers like Syrian Head of state

They were not sitting on their asses all that time since a seize fire between Iran and Israel.

There is always calm before the storm

Israel keeps destroying it's reputation world wide with Genocidal work they are doing , fully exposed all over the world , Iran has already won
the battle

How many Nations voted in favor of Palestine as free state , almost 95% of world did
 
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it seems the US knows very well it is unable to destroy Iran's nuclear infrastructure and it is bluffing to force IRI to negotiate

Iran is compromised. Whose to say that agents inside Iran wont make a move IF the bombs start dropping? Israel easily infiltrated hezbollah and were able to easily get head Hamas in a supposed high secure building deep inside Iran. Also don't forget Stuxnet.

If Israel really goes after Iran it's not just going to be air strikes.
 
Facts
  • Israel economy is shattered
  • Companies are shutting down
  • Political limbo with their Leader , who also had cancer surgery
  • US provided a 80 billion Bail out package while imposing Tarif money from rest of world, yes the world has to pay now
  • Israelis have been trying to move out to Europe on droves
An army , which is tired , and no longer capable of war strong adversary

Reputation and ideology is questioned which allows Genocide to happen

Bombing the Turkish-Palestinian friendship hospital , was quite a idiotic move

Israel ha snot even faced real "War" so far it has fought against a force which is more less a security guard force for office



The display of ships and plane is to prevent Iran from Helping Houthis , so the divide and conquer strategy can keep going
  • Divide and conquer , is the game which is being played


Facing 2-3 missiles or interception is not a war
 
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How many Super sonic Missiles has Iran mass produced , for past 6 months ? Since last firing on Israel ? Do you think they have been just sitting around twiddling their fingers like Syrian Head of state

They were not sitting on their asses all that time since a seize fire between Iran and Israel.

There is always calm before the storm

Israel keeps destroying it's reputation world wide with Genocidal work they are doing , fully exposed all over the world , Iran has already won
the battle

How many Nations voted in favor of Palestine as free state , almost 95% of world did
They need boots on da ground to conquer Irani's, but thats just too much work and money bhai......

Nothin will happen.......Iran has long won this battle and now Israheel in serious trouble with iraani proxies attacking it daily.

Trump sahb caught in da middle of this epic drama.....lol
 
It's all to take on Yamani Arabs (lets not call them Houthi or smoothy)
They are arabs , like Palestinian Arabs

The display of Toys(ships & bomber) is to ensure, Divide Yamen/Iran and work on Yamen individually

These Toys were also flown close to Ukraine , just did acrobatics and did nothing around Russia for past 2-3 years

So it is not a simultaneous , 2 front war

There is also risk from Uncle Erdogan , to attack from North
That is why the protest have been started to keep Turkey occupied a bit

The protest in Turkey are quite connected to escalation of Genocide in region
 

US not ready to fight China – Trump’s pick for top general
The American military is unprepared to deter its adversaries, John Caine has said
US not ready to fight China – Trump’s pick for top general
Retired Lt. Gen. John Daniel Caine, President Trump’s nominee to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testifies during his Senate Armed Services Committee confirmation hearing on April 01, 2025 in Washington, DC. © Getty Images
The US military would be unprepared for a protracted war with China due to shortcomings in the defense industrial base, President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Joint Chiefs of Staff has said.

In his written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday – part of the confirmation process – retired Lieutenant General John Caine stressed that rivalry with China remains one of the most pressing issues facing the US.

”The threat posed by China to American interests in the Indo-Pacific is real and growing. The US needs to work with allies and partners to deter China’s aggression in this region,” he claimed.

He warned, however, that the US is not currently in a position to respond to the perceived threat. “Unfortunately, at this critical moment, the Joint Force is contending with an acquisition process and defense industrial base that are not optimized for protracted conflict. The US does not have the throughput, responsiveness, or agility needed to deter our adversaries,” Caine said.

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Identifying the Indo-Pacific as a key theater for the US, the general remarked that the Chinese military “has made significant military improvements to include adjusting its military structures, fielding modern indigenous systems,” adding that “numerically, China has the largest navy in the world.”

He added, however, that Beijing “still has deficiencies in commander proficiency, long-distance logistics, urban warfare, and… modern warfare experience writ large.”

Caine also addressed the broader geopolitical landscape, arguing that while China, Russia, and North Korea are engaged in limited cooperation, “these countries are not acting as a bloc, nor are they trending toward a NATO-style alliance.”

The US and China are at odds over a number of issues, with tensions especially high over the self-governed island of Taiwan. Chinese leader Xi Jinping has said that while Beijing would prefer “a peaceful reunification” with what it considers a breakaway province, it has not ruled out the use of force to accomplish this.

Beijing has accused Washington of being “obsessed with suppressing China,” warning that this will only hurt the US.
 

US not ready to fight China – Trump’s pick for top general
The American military is unprepared to deter its adversaries, John Caine has said
US not ready to fight China – Trump’s pick for top general
Retired Lt. Gen. John Daniel Caine, President Trump’s nominee to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testifies during his Senate Armed Services Committee confirmation hearing on April 01, 2025 in Washington, DC. © Getty Images
The US military would be unprepared for a protracted war with China due to shortcomings in the defense industrial base, President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Joint Chiefs of Staff has said.

In his written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday – part of the confirmation process – retired Lieutenant General John Caine stressed that rivalry with China remains one of the most pressing issues facing the US.

”The threat posed by China to American interests in the Indo-Pacific is real and growing. The US needs to work with allies and partners to deter China’s aggression in this region,” he claimed.

He warned, however, that the US is not currently in a position to respond to the perceived threat. “Unfortunately, at this critical moment, the Joint Force is contending with an acquisition process and defense industrial base that are not optimized for protracted conflict. The US does not have the throughput, responsiveness, or agility needed to deter our adversaries,” Caine said.

Russia-China relations no threat to other nations – BeijingRead more Russia-China relations no threat to other nations – Beijing
Identifying the Indo-Pacific as a key theater for the US, the general remarked that the Chinese military “has made significant military improvements to include adjusting its military structures, fielding modern indigenous systems,” adding that “numerically, China has the largest navy in the world.”

He added, however, that Beijing “still has deficiencies in commander proficiency, long-distance logistics, urban warfare, and… modern warfare experience writ large.”

Caine also addressed the broader geopolitical landscape, arguing that while China, Russia, and North Korea are engaged in limited cooperation, “these countries are not acting as a bloc, nor are they trending toward a NATO-style alliance.”

The US and China are at odds over a number of issues, with tensions especially high over the self-governed island of Taiwan. Chinese leader Xi Jinping has said that while Beijing would prefer “a peaceful reunification” with what it considers a breakaway province, it has not ruled out the use of force to accomplish this.

Beijing has accused Washington of being “obsessed with suppressing China,” warning that this will only hurt the US.
Same applies to Iran and The general stated as much in the same hearing. The zio empire is in no position to launch a full scale war against Yemen, let alone Iran. To invade Iran an adversary force will need a minimum of a million men who willing, not only to kill but, to also risk their lives. Compare with the Russian SMO in Ukraine.
 
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Soviet Marshal Ogarkov cautioned that the American military capability has evolved after the Vietnam War but other Soviet analysts did not share his view. Most of the analysts of the time understood American military capability through the lens of the Vietnam War. Then Pakistani COAS Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg also assumed that the Iraqi Army will prevail. Good analysis and projections can provide the basis to avoid geopolitical miscalculations but such homework is not the forte of every setup or regime.
Soviet Marshal Ogarkov knew about this American capability before the outbreak of the Gulf War, because he himself was an enthusiast and was the head of GenStab when the USSR was in the process of modernization and reshaping, highlighting Soviet capabilities that the Americans copied and ended up using in the Gulf War, such as modern C4I processes, use of guided munitions, among others.
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Everything that ended up being revealed in the Gulf War, the Soviets had already predicted in the late 70s, even before the Americans, who ended up copying the theories of the Soviet MTR and adapting to the Western RMA.
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There was no Soviet shock from observing the Gulf War, other than the time it took for the Iraqi Army to be defeated, but in terms of what was employed in the war, nothing that was employed by the Americans would have alerted the Soviets who already knew about this capability, since some of these new technologies had already been used since Zapad-81.
 

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