Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

You being a bit over dramatic but no and killiong the 90m Iranians take alot of effort then you realize.

The pen is dry whatever that is about to happen has already happened. You will they will fall nothing will be able to prevent that

British killed 10 million plus in 2 years through in 1917-1919. And they've killed and are killing hundreds of thousands in Gaza now in less than 2. So no we can't wait 2-3 decades.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

There goes the theory of strategic depth when you compare the size of Iran vs Israel.

In Pakistan-India context we should stop worrying about the things we can't change and focus on pre-emptive crippling blow next time there is a false flag terrorist attack in India.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Lol. The Chinese Dragon would have decimated Israel multiple times over by now.

Sure, but any country cannot arbitrarily bomb other nation without a valid pretext.

If Iran decided to fully ally with China like Pakistan, this would not be happening for sure.

The Israeli drones during the 5.7 air battle was shot down like flies by China's laser weapons.

 

[A1Kaid]

Israel calls it “Operation Rising Lion”

 

[StrategicBear]

Lol. The Chinese Dragon would have decimated Israel multiple times over by now.

What responses China would have done? How many IRBMs, MRBMs does China have along with LACMs? I'm sure China has a combined total of 12,000+ of them as well as robotic factories that can mass-produce 100,000+ drones a month if under a war footing, right?

 

[That_Guy]

I wonder how China's military would have handled this attack? China has stealth fighters, a dense AD network, huge numbers of counter-stealth radars and an insane number of hypersonics, drones, and LACMs. How do you guys think China could have easily defeated an Israeli attack on this scale and responded within an hour???

The land in the general region would cease to exist.

China would flatten the entirety of Israel.

 

[battalion25]

British killed 10 million plus in 2 years through in 1917-1919.

You mean in WW1 half of these were their own losses and their allies..

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[wangdefa]

Lol. The Chinese Dragon would have decimated Israel multiple times over by now.

Israel attacks Beijing, capital of China? Assassinate a Chinese nuclear expert? The United States will announce the severance of relations with Israel at the first time, the five permanent members and NATO will announce that they have nothing to do with them, and then the whole world will begin to count down. The map needs to be reprinted. Because there is no Israel.
We should remember that it is the United Nations of the five permanent members, not the five permanent members of the United Nations. India will never understand this logic. It is very easy to dream of becoming the sixth permanent member.

 

[Salza]

All main Iran Army chief killed. Dam this is like Call of duty game. How can Israel able to strike Iran just like that?

Exactly. I am perplexed to see so much unpreparedness by Iranian regime. This was known to everyone that an attack is coming. Heck just yesterday US started pulling off their staff from the region. It was the major give away. Let's hope on contrary, Iranian top military leadership survives putting rest to these social media news/rumors of their possible killing.

 

[Watandar]

Forget old pdf I was part of that forum for 15 years anyways. What balls ? Israel kept hitting them, their scientists, Hamas chief , bombings than what ? Few ballistic missiles with no impact? Had indian did it at official level you would had seen proper response for us. Even in 2019 when they threw spice bombs on some random trees in a forest, you witness our retaliation very next day. For Iran, this was always coming. It's embarrassing to see it now felt to others that they looked so unprepared and clueless.

Iran has been fighting Israel/West for decades , at great cost to itself. That takes courage at a minimum. India isnt as advanced as Israel/West and is right next door. There isnt really a comparison to what Iran faces versus what we face.

 

[Meengla]

IRI cant "ride it out". Not when your 3 top generals got whacked, all major cities hit, attack on civillians that resulted in probably hundreds of civilians martyred, nuclear facilities, radar facilities, missile facilities hit. A war is being waged on IRI, it cant run from it. Either they'll gave a proportionate response or it'll be the end of IRI in medium to long term.

Scott said that several months ago: Ride it out while Trump is the President. Underestimating the personality of an American President is the undoing of the Muslims and the Arabs, otherwise the pro Palestinians progressives in America were never under any illusion about who'd be worse between Trump and Harris. Scott clearly saw what I had seen. I had warned about Trump a gazillion times in the Gaza thread.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That has nothing to do with this conflict, China won't get involved in this, there are too many pro-US/West factions within the Iranian government and public for China to get involved.

That's China's main evaluation; is the current Iranian regime still deserved to be salvaged?

But if the current regime collapses, Iran would sure become fragmented.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Iran seems to be pre-emptived by Israel. Where is the Iran airforce?

These days, most missile strikes are launched from stand-off ranges — far outside the target country’s borders. That’s exactly why air forces are no longer the first line of air defense in modern warfare.

I’ve said this before in the context of India–Pakistan too: air forces are becoming less effective at intercepting these kinds of attacks. Why? Because the enemy doesn’t even need to cross the border. They can fire from safe zones, and unless you disable their air defenses, your jets can’t get close enough to retaliate effectively.

That’s why in today’s warfare, the real backbone is air defenses. detect, intercept, and defend against what’s coming at you from hundreds of kilometers away.

Only one possible in this attacks - F35 might crossed the border.

 

[Immortals]

I am starting to think Qaani is an Israeli double agent along with Shamkhani. I never got a good vibe from these two.

It might make sense for Israel to cannibalize its double agents now that they are no longer needed.