Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

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Three waves -- 100 airstrikes each

^^

They can't sustain that capacity for long. Lots of that is being done over Iraqi airspace. Also US is likely refueling. With coming days depending on how AoR responds, Israel will not be able to carry out such high volume attacks on Iran.

Which is US is saying it will defend itself and Israel , so forth.

 

[wangdefa]

A sheep leading a pride of lions cannot be compared to a lion leading a flock of sheep.

LOL, your description is too appropriate.

 

[ShapurII]

he has a strong technical background as well and Sayyari has held many senior positions for a long time

they are strong replacements, especially for Salami who was not fit for his job

I am just glad that some of these guys survived

Sayyari is a military man, unlike the likes of Salami and Hajizadeh.

 

[SecularNationalist]

I don't know how it's even possible considering everyone knew it was coming but they somehow weren't prepared

Bro mosssad has infected iran deep. They have spies everywhere.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Three waves -- 100 airstrikes each

^^

They can't sustain that capacity for long. Lots of that is being done over Iraqi airspace. Also US is likely refueling. With coming days depending on how AoR responds, Israel will not be able to carry out such high volume attacks on Iran.

Which is US is saying it will defend itself and Israel , so forth.

they exploited our naivety and stupidity very very well and used everything they have

but we should be able to regroup better than Hezbollah

 

[Immortals]

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[That_Guy]

The last time I said Iran need an air force, I was told that Iranian air defenses were enough, I got insulted constantly by Iranian nationalists, as well as Pakistanis who called me a troll.

Guess who ended up being right?

I take no pleasure in this. It angers me.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Sayyari is a military man, unlike the likes of Salami and Hajizadeh.

hopefully Hajizadeh somehow survived too, though his status is unclear (lots of rumours)

 

[RafaleSlayer]

Even with a thousand strikes, Iran's main nuclear research facilities for the most part are expected to survive.

Its going to delay Iran from getting nukes, the research didn't just disappear, just the hardware did.

This was always the case for decades, it won't stop being the case now.

Taking the Iranian perspective into consideration, Khameini needs to make a decision now, not tomorrow, not yesterday, now.

forget it dude, its just self soothing talk. Time for Iran's nuclear ambitions are gone, you don't do it after your facilities and scientists are taken out. If you want to do it you do it quietly and announce when done.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Erdogan must hurry up with KAAN, Altay, Kızılelma, Akıncı and the Steel Dome.

After Iran, next target is Turkey.

 

[Faithfulguy]

Lets be real China was never gonna break it´s isolationist appraoch for anyone and intervene, the problem is not china or what not. Iran miscalculated it´s military stragetic calculus back in 2010s which was based on an aggressive forward policy but Iran has learned from it and will use this moment as lesson. The mideast is a very dangerous place and real estate.

China was wise enough to be on the side-line since the cold war which has benefited them.

Since the Saudi-Iranian reapproachment they have been advicing Iran to just chill out for 2-3 decades, Iran tried to chill out but it could not reverse some of it´s policies from 2010s. All the smart folks in the region know that Israel won´t be here until 2050 hence Iran´s early obsession with them was little bit strange instead of sit, observe, develope etc etc. Every war is won before it begins according to Sun Tzu himself.

I think during the 2010s some war hawks hijacked alltogether the Iranian foreign policy.

I was listening to some folks trying to talk down Egypt or Turkey etc etc. Why Doesn´t Egypt Invade Israel was question or Turkey etc etc but the answer is simple Egypt nor Turkey is ready to take on NATO bloc at this stage or timeline which is a simple fact, which means they are being smart. Same reason China has not taken Taiwan yet because they don´t feel they are ready to take on the US or NATO.

but in few decades the political landscape will change naturally and automatically.

Pakistan is smart enough to focus on its core interests. So it’s China. It’s foolish to be aggressive and fight when one is not strong enough. Or over estimate itself such as the country lead by the butcher of Gujarat.

The reality in the Middle East in the last twenty years is that the anti Israeli forces are prop by Russia. All other anti Israeli forces are supported and derived from Russia. So when Russia is distracted from its war with Ukraine. Hezbollah was emasculated and Assad was destroyed. And the Oct 7 was encouraged by Massad so Israel can commit genocide. Now, Israel is trying to destroy Iran. The anti Israeli forces in the Middle East would be destroyed if Israel is successful. Which look possible. But lets hope Iran can fight back.

As for China being isolationist, it’s only partially true. Any invasion by India to Pakistan will get a response from China. The likelihood of India invade Pakistan, even if India is more powerful or even if Pakistan doesn’t have nukes, will not happen because it’s an issue China view on par with Taiwan. But it will never come to that as Pakistani Air Force is superior to Indian junks and there no invasion without air superiority.

 

[mack8]

Dejected to see this actually happening. Regardless of other opinions of how and why it got to this, **** the murderous genocidal zionist regime and may they rot in hell.

 

[ShapurII]

The last time I said Iran need an air force, I was told that Iranian air defenses were enough, I got insulted constantly by Iranian nationalists, as well as Pakistanis who called me a troll.

Guess who ended up being right?

I take no pleasure in this. It angers me.

Dude, they have laughed at me for that a million times.

Don't take it personal. Some people here lived in their delusions.

The same idiots who said "but nukes are useless".

 

[ShapurII]

hopefully Hajizadeh somehow survived too, though his status is unclear (lots of rumours)

He's incompetent too.
We need people with actual education like Sayyari.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I get the feeling the worst is over and Israel won't get another chance to deliver a blow like this again. But we can never underestimate them.

@ShapurII