Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Toxic]

Israel claims that Mossad agents on the ground neutralized them before the attack.

Not sure how reliable is the claim.

Sounds like cope to me, also if Mossad has infiltrated that deep into the Iranian military than Iran stands absolutely no chance

 

[OldTwilight]

What happened to all the domestic Iranian air defences? Are they vaporwave?

over saturated ...

 

[K2RULEZ]

After the recent Indo-Pak conflict and this，I have to say Pakistan is very wise and lucky to have the J35/KJ500/HQ19 deal done，stealth fighter jets and better EW/AD systems are so crucial for the survival of the military，it's better be geared up ASAP.

Just yesterday the German news outlet DW was questioning Pakistan's defence budget increase. Not only should this budget be increased. Pakistan should get the best of the best. It is war all over the place and we are back to the wild wild West.

 

[muhammed45]

Gonna call BS on this one. Of course they aren’t going to give the Israeli’s free damage assessment.

It’s highly likely anything above natanz is now gone. And the vibration likely damaged the sensitive centrifuges meters below if they didn’t penetrate.

There are satellites that Record radiation and track it. Impossible to hide radiation leak

 

[ShapurII]

you can't hide increase in radiation in atmosphere, I believe it

Radiation from what?

 

[Immortals]

They haven't even released a statement.
Saudi Arabia released a statement sooner than Iraq.

It is impossible to say that Iraq is innocent in this.
This is the second time that Iraqi airspace is used to launch ALBMs against Iran.

Also, Gen. Soleimani was killed in Iraq.

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

 

[White Privilege]

He doesn't have choice now.

that fatwa is a hoax, that is why Israel deemed it necessary to attack. No country in its right mind would limit its options when it is at a place where Iran is....

 

[Menthol]

A few batteries of S-300 whose FCRs were damaged last year in first Israeli attack on Iranian soil.

That is nearly not enough for a country the size of Iran. Iran needs 5x the amount of systems it has to even begin throwing up a wall of defense….some might argue 10x

Even Russia with all its air defenses is struggling against Ukraine and has pulled systems from its border with China to reinforce the war frontline

This is very bad.

The key to winning a war is preparation.

Iran is already losing before the war even begins.

 

[Meengla]

A few batteries of S-300 whose FCRs were damaged last year in first Israeli attack on Iranian soil.
That is nearly not enough for a country the size of Iran. Iran needs 5x the amount of systems it has to even begin throwing up a wall of defense….some might argue 10x
Even Russia with all its air defenses is struggling against Ukraine and has pulled systems from its border with China to reinforce the war frontline

Iran, with its immense oil wealth and much better human resources than Pakistan, could have developed a decent air force and air defense systems. But Iran's 'defense' was its proxies in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iraq... And when they became largely neutralized and ineffective in the last 6-8 months, plus with the decades long investment by the West in Iran's internal frictions, Iran became exposed. That's what Scott Ritter tried to warn against 2-3 months ago where he got chewed out.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

Now is the time to kill them all. PMU puts up or gets killed too.

 

[ShapurII]

Well there is no secret that only a subset of Iraqi government actually likes Iran. Then there is the Kurds, Sunnis, and anti Iran Shiites like Sadr and Sistani blocs.

So yes there are a lot of backstabbers in Iraq who are tired of Iranian influence in Iraqi politics who would be happy to feign ignorance and do nothing.

That's all I'm saying. Iraq should be on top of our list. Nobody deserves the top spot more than Iraq.

 

[SaadH]

Khamenei will be targeted as well. This is the end for the regime.
Now they have to show if they really have the balls to "finish Israel off".

Iran needs to take mass casualties from Israeli citizens. Otherwise, this is the beginning of the end.

If Irani regime is going down they should target all US assets in the region as well as their minions like the gulfie camel jockeys. Dubai should be flattened at the very least and strait of Hormoz blocked for the foreseeable future.

 

[battalion25]

From a strategic perspective, China's best strategy

I have a quick question for you..

Now I am gonna mention a scenario for you okay and I wanna see how you would respond to such scenario from a Chinese perspective..

Lets say in the next 10 years surprisingly a 3rd unknown party pops up from the middle east and lays to waste Europe, North America, Russia, South America I mean billions die within 48 hours window and this entity has weapons unseen before such as biological weapon much more dangerous then nukes.

This group will be quickly labelled worse then ISIS but due to the fact of the amount of destruction they are able to cause they start storming and occupying North American, South America, Europe, Ocenia and Mideast itself.

How will China react to such scenario besides this scenario is unlikely but lets assume it all of sudden happened out of nowhere note this entity will replace majority of the state actors in the mideast as well.

How will China react to such scenario will it watch the world die and taken by a group considered to be worse then ISIS or react in fighting them immediately?

@guangdongt you can answer it as well​

 

[Immortals]

There are satellites that Record radiation and track it. Impossible to hide radiation leak

Again read what I wrote.

Above ground facilities don’t have to enrich uranium and the vibration of bombs can cause damage to the centrifuges below and since it’s 30M below their is no leakage.

You don’t need to penetrate to knock Natanz offline for months (maybe years). We have to wait for satellite images. At this point it’s speculation.

 

[Menthol]

Trump had announced that an attack was imminent. I guess, the attack was preplanned and the details were shared with the Americans. Of course the Americans have given a green light here.

100% a big green light.