Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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[Immortals]

Ali Karaki was killed in the bunker too

and all the Redwan Forces commanders

They were not being kept exclusively in the bunker tho. They arrived to meet Nasrallah. Big difference. I mean where else would they meet Nasrallah at his home?

 

[ShapurII]

Does Qaani look Jewish to you? He has a very….Jewish Raabi like appearance.

The entire remaining chain of command needs to be analyzed for moles. And any of their bodyguards, sons, daughters, etc.

The Larijanis look more Jewish to me

 

[StrategicBear]

I will prepare a MASSIVE retaliation if I were Iranian leaders... with the aim of causing 500,000+ casualties on the enemy nation as a WAR GOAL.

 

[Michael]

Do you believe that Arabs and Iranians are truly firm in their hearts? Over thousands of years, too many countries and nations have been destroyed, and there are only over 200 countries and regions in the world today. However, in ancient times, the actual number of small countries and regions was much higher than today. We need to see the future, where human competition is very fierce。Human beings are very realistic animals. Surrender and development are also instincts, even countries as fanatical as Japan during World War II have been subjugated. From cultural to psychological submission. The power of propaganda and subtle influence is far more powerful today than in ancient times. I don't want to go deeper

Whether it is Middle Eastern culture or Western English culture, the concept of “unity” is completely different from that in Chinese culture. This is a cultural gene that has been integrated into the bloodstream after thousands of years of development, and no one can change it in a short period of time.

In most countries around the world, the culture of “freedom/democracy” has become deeply ingrained. This culture leads to intense internal conflicts within countries.

Arab countries, Muslim countries, and Western countries are all the same in terms of their foreign relations and internal management.

With Middle Eastern oil in Israeli/US control they will have China by the balls. And all trade will be diverted to the West.

I have a quick question for you..

Now I am gonna mention a scenario for you okay and I wanna see how you would respond to such scenario from a Chinese perspective..

Lets say in the next 10 years surprisingly a 3rd unknown party pops up from the middle east and lays to waste Europe, North America, Russia, South America I mean billions die within 48 hours window and this entity has weapons unseen before such as biological weapon much more dangerous then nukes.

This group will be quickly labelled worse then ISIS but due to the fact of the amount of destruction they are able to cause they start storming and occupying North American, South America, Europe, Ocenia and Mideast itself.

How will China react to such scenario besides this scenario is unlikely but lets assume it all of sudden happened out of nowhere note this entity will replace majority of the state actors in the mideast as well.

How will China react to such scenario will it watch the world die and taken by a group considered to be worse then ISIS or react in fighting them immediately?

@guangdongt you can answer it as well​

In the early stages of the conflict between Israel and Hamas, the Chinese government made an effort to intervene. The various Palestinian factions reached an agreement in Beijing and unified their opinions.
However, the agreement was soon torn up, and unilateral action was taken. Since then, the Chinese government has not intervened in the conflict.

In Chinese philosophy, when we encounter difficulties, we must first have the courage and determination to overcome them ourselves before seeking help from others. If we encounter difficulties and immediately think of seeking help from others, no one will help such people.

In the face of Israel's brutal war, Palestinians still persist in internal struggles. Middle Eastern countries are each calculating their own interests. Even if Israel launches a large-scale air strike against Iran, many Iranians on PDF are still criticizing their own government and military...

And those Muslim countries that are “as close as brothers”...
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As for oil and trade, whoever dominates the Middle East will need to trade with China. Don't forget that even now, the US still wants China to buy large quantities of US oil.

China itself is not heavily dependent on imported oil. This is a trade issue, not a strategic one.
1. China's own energy reforms have already had a significant impact. New energy vehicles are now very common in China. Most of China's electricity comes from hydropower, nuclear power, solar power, and wind power.
2. China does import a lot of oil. However, what many people don't know is that China also exports a significant amount of refined petroleum products (gasoline/diesel) and petroleum byproducts.
3. China also has numerous large oil fields within its borders. However, the Chinese government has strictly controlled the extraction of these oil fields for many years.

 

[Immortals]

The Larijanis look more Jewish to me

Yeah but the Larijanis wouldn’t know where top of chain of command are at any given moment. Only Qaani would know that information and members of national security council like Shamkhani.

Just follow the trail of “who would know where ______ was”

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel tracked all the commanders via their cell phones and AI machine learning algos like they did against Hezbollah.

 

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Report: Mossad carried out covert sabotage operations against Iranian air defenses, long-range missiles

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www.timesofisrael.com

No Iranian fighter jet in the air ? Not a single air defense system work in the attack ?

 

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[hasn2009]

 

[Meengla]

For posterity's sake, this is part of the NY Times front page right now:

 

[شَاھِین شَاہِ لَولَاک]

the iranains will again target empty spots in israel.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah but the Larijanis wouldn’t know where top of chain of command are at any given moment. Only Qaani would know that information and members of national security council like Shamkhani.

Just follow the trail of “who would know where ______ was”

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel tracked all the commanders via their cell phones and AI machine learning algos like they did against Hezbollah.

Why not? Mohammad Javad could know.

 

[Immortals]

 

[SD 10]

Looks like the israelis have credible information that iran dont have nukes....

 

[Salza]

No one cares about Pakistan besides India. Stop self elevating your importance and going off topic.

@Persian Gulf can you start handing out warnings to these trolls so they don’t start turning this into a Israel vs Pakistan paranoia thread.

And who the hell are you said that on Pakistani forum ? @Musings and other mods can you check this troll