Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) confirming their air defense systems have intercepted virtually all drones and missiles, maintaining readiness in anticipation of further threats

Sirens sound in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, explosions heard at Tehran airport – as it happened

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Lies... Their AD is good but not that good. I don't think the full barrage of drones and smaller fireworks have yet reached Israel..

Peace discussions making headway and a resolution almost reached and then Israel ordered to attack? This is the kind of treacherous behaviour we are now used to from these bastards

Yup its right out of their playbook.

 

[Salza]

Salza you need to stop discussing Pakistani issues on this thread. I understand why you brought this up but ultimately we have given the Iranian members a small section on the forum where they can discuss sole Iranian issues.

They are currently hurting from a devastating attack by Israel which has likely resulted in loss of property and civilian lives.

The Iranian members on PDF are usually insular and keep themselves to themselves except a handful who interact in Pakistani threads so let them have a space to discuss their affairs without feeling as if they "voices" or opinions are being diluted with discussions of other countries such as say 'Pakistan'.

I normally don't reply in Iranian threads but due to extra ordinary circumstances, I am posting here just like any other nationals.

 

[Musings]

They intercepted the missiles that hadn't been launched yet? Awesome.

Indian confirming where his loyalty is.

 

[wangdefa]

Israel has bombed Iran, the Iranian people are attacking the Iranian government, and the whole world is laughing at Iran, is this a sign of the Iranians' incompetence?

 

[soundwave1987]

After this time I think there's no possibility to establish a pro west regime in Iran，even if the Islamic republic got overthrown. The only risk is the collapse of morale and national faith of Iranian ppl，just like what we Chinese ppl experienced after the first Sino-Japanese war and the collapse of Qing dynasty. You should read our history of “Century of Humiliation" and what we called "unprecedented Catalysm in three millania"，to see how the once proud and powerful Celestial Empire fall into the abyss of self doubt even self hatred and crawled back to today's position. Then you can take some notes to revive the great persian civilization.

 

[TopGun786]

I dian confirming where his loyalty is.

The guy seem even more worried about drones than IDF herself.

 

[Immortals]

These guys still talking

 

[El Sidd]

Shameful and regrettable aggression by bastard entity. The region will be plunged into further chaos and violence.

Peace seems to be anti thesis to Israel and Israel's insistence on war as policy of survival will ultimately be her undoing. More and more people are convinced that peace in Near East can only be a post Israel reality.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Lies... Their AD is good but not that good. I don't think the full barrage of drones and smaller fireworks have yet reached Israel..


Yup its right out of their playbook.

It's highly likely to being intercepted by the USA, UK, and Israel on the pathway!

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Some 200 Israeli aircraft took part in Friday’s operation, hitting about 100 targets, Israeli army chief spokesman Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin said, adding that the attacks were ongoing.

In the aftermath, Defrin said Iran had launched more than 100 drones toward Israel and that “all the defense systems are acting to intercept the threats.”

Israel, Iraq, Iran and Jordan shut down their airspace to all flights as a precaution.

Israel attacks Iran's nuclear and missile sites, prompting Iranian drone-strike retaliation

Air raid sirens sounded over Jordan’s capital Friday as Iranian drones were inbound to target Israel in retaliation for Israel’s strikes on Iran.

apnews.com

 

[Tamerlane]

The drones and/or cruise missiles are getting close. The real action will begin when the ballistic missiles are launched.

 

[SolarWarden]

So Iran is telling Isreal that in a few hours which has now turned to minutes it will launch an attack... why? Do they want IAF taking out these launch sites?

 

[Cash gk]

What is Pakistan ro sa

I normally don't reply in Iranian threads but due to extra ordinary circumstances, I am posting here just like any other nationals.

Very important Iran defences is well connected with the Pakistan defence if Iran falls. Next number is our.

 

[Meengla]

I very much like to believe that Iran is trying to saturate the Israel AD, but this time America/UK will be protecting Israel even more because this time Israel launch a full scale Attack, killing many Military leaders, right now i will hold my assessment of Iran's drone attacks, we don't have all the information but it will be clear in few hours/ or a day or two.

Please look up Scott Ritter's interviews from 2-3 months ago. I don't respect the guy a lot but he seemed prescient in what was going to happen to Iran unless Iran didn't ride out the Trump Presidency. Scott knows the American political system, he knows Trump the ultimate Zionist, he knows Netanyahu, and he was on the mark then. He was chewed out over his statements then but he was right. He said things like 'Iran needs to ride it out because this is the most Zionist administration ever'. 'Iran may not even be able to launch many of those thousands of missiles because a lot of home work has been done by the Israelis on those sites' 'Iran has lot of internal fissures/moles which Israel is going to exploit' 'It was unthinkable just a few months ago that Hezbollah would be damaged like that, the Pagers Attack, the Fall of Assad'. I have paraphrased his words. I think most of those words were spoken in a Glen Diesen interview 2-3 months ago and for those Scott was chewed out. The guy could be a loose cannon but is often right.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

agghh... North Korea doesn't threaten Israel. NK threatens Seoul and thus no major war in the Korean Peninsula for 60 years. The Middle East is quasi religious and thus irrational and in multiple countries. The East Asians are far smarter.

Pick your shades!
All revolves around personal biases.
Mideast was thoroughly secular. Ba'athists and Nasser's Arab Nationalists. All gone! They fought their fight.
Same with Iran... till people revolted! The current paradigm is reactionary, catching up to what they're facing, a messianic cult seeking rapture, end times and return of the Moshiach under a secular rubric.

North Koreans remained monolithic, hermit kingdom, under cult of personality deify Kim dynasty. You think they play smart? I think survival is the first instinct and they saw death... none in Mideast faced those kinds of battles... human waves and deaths of tens of thousands in days.
Thay however is not the topic. I have a very good guess on why the Mollah regime sought to appease west. They needed western approval after the end of shah... one way to do that is to buy your way in... denounce violence and in doing so condemn nuclear weapons for yourself. It was as much a survival instinct as that of Qadafi... who volunteered his arsenal on a silver platter seeing what happened to Saddam and became another example on what not to do... dithering gets you nowhere! It shows weakness... emboldens the hyenas. In this case hyenas just showed up at Iranian doors... knowing full well that they kept their word and didn't go nuclear...

Guess what... if they learned anything... NOW THEY SHOULD!

 

[RescueRanger]

Israel has bombed Iran, the Iranian people are attacking the Iranian government, and the whole world is laughing at Iran, is this a sign of the Iranians' incompetence?

I think conflict brings out three kinds of people.

1. people who are patriotic and love their country are angry and upset and want to see some action, it hurts a lot when an enemy country attacks your nation, we know the feeling, and we saw the same behaviour from some attacking the armed forces and government with barbed comments and remarks. These remarks are not hateful, they are just angry and venting and want to uphold their national pride.

2. The second kind are those people who relish the humiliation of their nation for some strange twisted reason. (These people could be disillusioned patriots, dissidents, people who no longer feel a connection to their home identity.

3. Indifferent and apathetic: These are the third kind and just sit on their hands waiting for a better day to come.