Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

All because of Iranian state policy many many Iranians turned against state and seems to be very easy to work for any INTL agency, they are oppressed poor and middle class while rich Iranians are wearing skirts jeans and swimming in pools no issue but moral police arresting poor people on streets and publicly shamming them.

If Shah was not thrown out by Mullahs eventually Iran now would became democracy and might be the richest country of this region but sad to say they choose Mullah and now instead of going forward they will became like Afghanistan.

Shah was thrown out in a revolution led by a united opposition, which included secularists and even communists, but had a big mullah component. As happens in post revolutions, the strongest faction took power. If the Shah had not been thrown out, his family would still be ruling Iran today just like the western supported Arab monarchs and dictators you see in rest of Mideast and Muslim world.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iranian paper tiger regime is fully exposed for the whole world to see.

Iran is an incompetent paper tiger.

 

[shamir]

Attack on Fordow?

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Meengla]

after oct 7 when ground invasion of Gaza began Israhell was at it's weakest, however Hizbollah, Iran didn't do anything except Hezbollah targeting some radars in border areas... Gaza genocided while Nasrallah and Hezbollah didn't take part in full might... only to become the next target... eventually Hezbollah was decaptated and Iran did nothing..next Syria fell, Iran did nothing....next Houthis were attacked day night and Iran remained silent...after all taken care of now it"s Iran's turn.. and they were not even prepared to the least.....

Right but Iran's hesitation was because it didn't want to be carpet bombed by the Americans if Israel's survival was at stake. Iran was punching way above its weight when it tried to take the Palestinian cause: Iran was fighting not just Israel but almost the entire NATO and also sometimes some Arab nations were openly countering Iran. And who were the Iranian allies? Russia? That country wants to sit on the West's lap and has much love for Israel. China? Why would they when they have their own worries in the Pacific and also about a West-backed India. But people got too giddy over the SCO and the Asian Century blah blah where Iran was a crucial part. I never put much faith in the so-called Asian alliances: They are too different countries from each other culturally and civilizationally. The West is a united force!
What's happening to Iran is a direct result of its failed policies of the past half century where it tried to be more than it was capable of. You poke a Superpower who has powerful regional and remote allies, you'd lose.
Going forward: Iran should just concentrate on its economy. Forget Palestine--it was lost anyway at least partly due to the historic Arab treachery as the Gaza war showed.

 

[Immortals]

So the entire response by Iran after being pummeled for 18 hours has been….

*checks notes*

100 lawnmower drones fired at Israel

This is what they spent 25 years preparing for?

 

[hussain0216]

Two of our air fields have been fully destroyed at Tabriz and Hamedan.
You think Iran has time to prepare for a large response?

They had at least 20 years to prepare for this.

Absolutely, they have been better prepared

No one knows why you don't have a airforce or more comprehensive A.D

But that doesn't mean Iran can forgive treacherous groups, Iran is a big country

A war isn't something fought over one day
Who knows how long this will take, and if certain "Persian" groups spend their time in shrill propaganda against Iran then their needs to be consequences


You need to wait for a iranian response to see how prepared they are for this conflict

So far it's been shitty, and they need to do better

If they survive this and they probably will they need a IMMEDIATE revamp of multiple organizations

 

[clutch]

Awful news. I just don't understand why Iran has made an enemy out of Israel, just to spite America when no other Muslim country lends it any support.

The root cause is a stupid Shia Sunni divide that has destroyed us from within.

Plus GCC Arabs are mostly sellouts.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Attack on Fordow?

they have pledged to destroy Fordow

but I don't think they can do it.

 

[Watandar]

Yes but the alternative is a sanctioned failed state like Iran. Do you want that or an organized well run peaceful country?

there is a lot of space between these two extremes. A difficult but navigable path.

 

[Ali_Baba]

To be honest Iranians need to test a nuclear bomb now otherwise it's all over for them, Iran is riddled full of traitors and Israeli spies.

It would be pointless, because Iran lacks the facilities now to build fuel for bombs given that most of its nuclear ecosystem has been destroyed. Setting off a firecracker now makes no difference as the nuclear programme is neutralised. They should have done this before the attack, as Pakistan did.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Immortals]

 

[the saint]

who will hold Iranian leader accountable for the epic disaster? .. Iranian people please do it

 

[Maarkhoor]

Shah was thrown out in a revolution led by a united opposition, which included secularists and even communists, but had a big mullah component. As happens in post revolutions, the strongest faction took power. If the Shah had not been thrown out, his family would still be ruling Iran today just like the western supported Arab monarchs and dictators you see in rest of Mideast and Muslim world.

Lols even if Shah's family ruling whay makes difference Iranian might be a very powerful rich country with better education and future.