Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

R2D2 said:
Pakistan should covertly supply Iran with the needed missiles and drones and also coordinate with China to send J-10 aircrafts with pilots similar to the 1973 War when Pakistan pilots fought against Israel from Jordan. For China it will be a booster as their aircrafts will get battle field experience and Iran will become a big buyer of Chinese military equipment in the future.
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J-10 will be suicidal against F-35.

Even J-35 export variant will be suicidal against Israeli F-35 which is domestic US variant (not export).
 
PakAl said:
It's too late to go nuclear now. Israel is ruling the skies, they WILL destroy every military installations, missile bases, navy assets. I think they knew Iran is speaking the truth and not going nuclear so this is why Israel attacked them. We have been discussing on PDF for decades but Iranians never believed the situation that is happening now, that Iaf is in their skies, they thought Israel cannot reach and Iran is too far. I fail to understand if Iran didn't have anything then why keep on making empty threats, and arm militias such as hizbollah and the rest to target Israel. Today the zionist are making Iran pay for this.

They will continue bombing Iran, even if peace is done, they will still bomb Iran like they used to bomb syria in the name of killing terrorists and destroy missile factories. They will never allow Iran to rise again as a regional power.
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Years ago a USAF F35 and F22 stayed in Iranian airspace for a long time
that should have been a wakeup call for them
 
If only Iran made a nuke somewhere and dispatched it to the heart of Tel Aviv. Like YESTERDAY.

Iranian Forces were complacent, thinking diplomacy would save them. Army's job is to stay ahead and alert, not waste time with diplomats.
 
PakAl said:
It's too late to go nuclear now. Israel is ruling the skies, they WILL destroy every military installations, missile bases, navy assets. I think they knew Iran is speaking the truth and not going nuclear so this is why Israel attacked them. We have been discussing on PDF for decades but Iranians never believed the situation that is happening now, that Iaf is in their skies, they thought Israel cannot reach and Iran is too far. I fail to understand if Iran didn't have anything then why keep on making empty threats, and arm militias such as hizbollah and the rest to target Israel. Today the zionist are making Iran pay for this.

They will continue bombing Iran, even if peace is done, they will still bomb Iran like they used to bomb syria in the name of killing terrorists and destroy missile factories. They will never allow Iran to rise again as a regional power.
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You have to understand the mentality and psyche of the ruling regime (Islamic Republic) to understand the strange decisions and mindset.

It is a regime based on slogans since the late 70's. So many slogans until their own generals and commanders believed in it.

How do you explain being on the brink of war and your commanders going to sleep in their pyjamas at home? There is only one explanation for that.
 
Dariush-e Bozorg said:
... We know this, but what we do not know is what the end game of Israel is. What is it? Is it the fall of IR regime? Weakening of the regime to the point it ceases to be a credible military threat to Israel? ...
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Not the Zionist end game but the US's end game, is to completely destroy Iran as a nation state and turn it into another Syria.

That's what the US had decided and planned for within weeks of 11 September 2001 attacks, according to the former US NATO Commander Wesley Clark.

 
PakAl said:
It's too late to go nuclear now. Israel is ruling the skies, they WILL destroy every military installations, missile bases, navy assets. I think they knew Iran is speaking the truth and not going nuclear so this is why Israel attacked them. We have been discussing on PDF for decades but Iranians never believed the situation that is happening now, that Iaf is in their skies, they thought Israel cannot reach and Iran is too far. I fail to understand if Iran didn't have anything then why keep on making empty threats, and arm militias such as hizbollah and the rest to target Israel. Today the zionist are making Iran pay for this.

They will continue bombing Iran, even if peace is done, they will still bomb Iran like they used to bomb syria in the name of killing terrorists and destroy missile factories. They will never allow Iran to rise again as a regional power.
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First of all, don't say Iranians. Say regime supporters. Everybody in Iran, even ordinary citizens with no knowledge of military stuff, knew that this day would come and it would happen exactly like this.

Secondly, don't worry. If things remain the same, the regime will fall soon and it will be replaced with a pro-US regime. Iran will become a regional power again, but strongly allied with Israel and the US against Muslims.

You have to understand that anti-Israeli/anti-US propaganda is the regime's last pillar. If it falls, the regime won't last even a year. The regime is hated in Iran, if they tell their supporters that we have been defeated by Israel, it's over for them.
 
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