Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Imagine Iran under nationalist army, not the mullahs or Usa puppets. I gurantee within a few years Pakistan Iran Turkey would become really close, and slowly China would be in the friendly zone. Iran doesn't get involved in the middleeast, or threaten anyone unless someone directly attacks Iran, diplomatic support etc for Palestinians can continue. Since Iran will be minding it's own business the GCC Israeli and Usa will not see them as a threat, Iran will trade with Usa Eu China Turkey Pakistan China ASEAN Central Asia.

What Iran regime failed to understand is look what happened to the Ottomans in the middleeast, the same happened to Iran. Usa EU will not allow anyone to threaten their daddy. Maybe it's better for Iran to move on, save Iran economy and the harm which the zionist bombing will cause.
I agree. Iran needs to get rid of this idiotic Mullah govt.

But not before kicking Israel’s ass first.
 
You do realize that the Iranian-American community is also super Zionist, right?
So, I don't see why the Israeli lobby should be a problem in that scenario.
Because it doesn’t matter. Iranians will accept poverty, oppression, even death, but never to become a slave state. Our national pride, our legacy, strategic position and natural resources won’t allow it. That’s why, no matter what, the West will never allow Iran to rise, because in the long run, a strong and independent Iran is a strategic threat they cannot afford. Unlike others who have been used to taking orders, submission is not in our DNA.
 
Iranian airforce needs to use Pakistan airbases to launch air patrols back into Iran or it needs to give Pakistan Air Force free rein of Iranian skies.

Iran has lost the skies.

I said time and time again you cannot expect Iran’s air defense network to shoulder all the burden of air defense. You need interceptors and everyone said “blah blah airforce is expensive blah blah Airforce is obsolete when missiles can do the job blah blah Iran cannot compete with Israel in the air”. The IRGC and their anti Air Force views have doomed this nation.

The fact we didn’t push any nation (to give us fighter jets) or take internal development seriously has come to haunt us

@Persian Gulf @Hack-Hook
let Pakistani jets impose no fly zone over Tehran lol
 
Because it doesn’t matter. Iranians will accept poverty, oppression, even death, but never to become a slave state. Our national pride, our legacy, strategic position and natural resources won’t allow it. That’s why, no matter what, the West will never allow Iran to rise, because in the long run, a strong and independent Iran is a strategic threat they cannot afford. Unlike others who have been used to taking orders, submission is not in our DNA.
We already are a slave state. We are Russia's slave, and a mistreated slave too.
 
India distances itself from SCO statement condemning Israeli strikes on Iran; 'We did not participate in the discussions,' says MEA

TOI News Desk / TIMESOFINDIA.COM / Updated: Jun 14, 2025

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A projectile hit buildings on Friday as the Israeli Iron Dome air-defense system fired to intercept missiles over Tel Aviv. (AP)

NEW DELHI: India on Saturday distanced itself from a statement issued by the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) condemning recent Israeli strikes on Iran, clarifying that it did not participate in the discussions that led to the group's remarks.

In a statement, the ministry of external affairs (MEA) said, “The Shanghai Cooperation Organization has issued a statement on recent developments between Israel and Iran. India did not participate in the discussions on the above-mentioned SCO statement.”

The MEA reaffirmed India's independent stance on the Israel-Iran tensions, first articulated on June 13, and reiterated its call for calm and dialogue. “We urge that channels of dialogue and diplomacy be utilised to work towards de-escalation.
It is essential that the international community undertake endeavours in that direction,” the statement read.
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External affairs minister S Jaishankar also conveyed India’s concerns directly to his Iranian counterpart during a recent conversation. According to the MEA, Jaishankar highlighted the international community's deep concern over the rising tensions and emphasized the need to avoid further escalation and return to diplomatic engagement.

The SCO statement had strongly denounced Israel’s strikes on Iranian territory, describing them as “aggressive actions against civilian targets, including energy and transport infrastructure,” which it said caused civilian casualties and violated international law and the UN Charter. It also reaffirmed support for resolving tensions around Iran’s nuclear program through peaceful and diplomatic means and expressed condolences to the Iranian people and government.

India, however, reiterated its independent stance, first stated on June 13, which emphasized restraint, dialogue, and diplomacy. “India urges both sides to avoid any escalatory steps. Existing channels of dialogue and diplomacy should be utilised to work towards a de-escalation of the situation and resolving underlying issues,” the earlier MEA statement had said.
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The ministry added that Jaishankar had recently spoken with his Iranian counterpart, conveying the deep concern of the international community and reiterating the need to avoid further escalation and return to diplomatic processes.

India emphasized its “close and friendly relations with both countries” and reaffirmed its readiness to extend support towards efforts for peace. The MEA also noted that Indian missions in Iran and Israel remain in contact with the Indian community, advising nationals to remain cautious and follow local advisories.


India knows its all over for Iran, they want to jump in bed with the zionist. Big error by Iranians to allow Indians inside Iran, imagine the amount of spies entered.
 
khamenei is want to play nice and keep negotioan door open ... looser mentality
yeah and not just him. all IRGC are in control now they should take revenge for their martyred friends at least. unleash hell on the bastards while we still can.
 

Iran's strategy of digging down poses problem Israel may not be able to solve

Joe Inwood
World news correspondent

Benjamin Netanyahu has long signalled his desire to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities, meaning Tehran has long prepared for any such attack.

From the very beginning, Israel targeted Iran’s air defences. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has released multiple videos showing missile batteries being destroyed.

This afternoon, IDF spokesperson Effie Defrin says Israel has “air freedom all the way to Tehran”.

But air defences are not the only thing protecting Iran’s extensive nuclear operations.

Many of Iran’s most important facilities are buried deep underground, protected by layers of earth and reinforced concrete.

The fuel enrichment plant at Fordow, for example, is thought to be around 80m (262ft) below the surface, while analysts say a new facility at Mt Kolang is even deeper.

Iran's main military facilities


Targeting sites like this requires specialist bombs, such as the GBU-57/B, or Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). Colloquially known as "bunker busters", this huge 30,000lb bomb is capable of destroying targets buried under about 60m of reinforced concrete.

But the US is not currently taking part in the strikes, and Israel does not possess the MOP.

As for what they do have, the most effective weapons they possess are the ROCKS or the Air LORA, air-launched ballistic missiles capable of destroying up to 6m of reinforced concrete.

According to Justin Bronk of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), attacking a deep facility with these would require multiple precise strikes at the same point to "burrow down".

With each strike destroying around 6m of concrete, reaching sites like Fordow or Mt Kolang looks like a remote prospect.

According to Alon Pinkas, who advised two Israeli prime ministers, Israel simply does not possess the stocks of munitions for the task.

The more realistic option would be to target entry and exit tunnels, rendering the facilities unusable.

The issue with this strategy, according to the RUSI report, is that Iranian efforts to dig down to the facilities and re-establish access "would likely begin almost immediately". All of which serves to explain why Bronk and others say destroying Iran's nuclear programme through military means is "not feasible". Undoubtedly it can be set back, especially through the extensive assassinations of top scientists, but as long as the regime survives, it will attempt to build back.
 

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