Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[SaadH]

Iran urgently requires air defense assistance from Russia. To adequately defend at least part of Tehran’s airspace, it needs a minimum of 5–6 LOMAD (Low to Medium Altitude Air Defense) and 3–4 HIMAD (High to Medium Altitude Air Defense) systems. Without this support, Iraninan regime is in grave danger , it doesnt matter how many BMs they have, they wont survive the massive onslaught. Russia, in turn, risks losing its last ally in the Middle East.

Russia despite all its pretensions is beholden to zionists. Afterall it is the ancestral land of the zionists. It will sacrifice Iran or any other nation at the altar of zionism.

 

[Sarhang]

Answer harshly with what? What weapons does IR have vs Israel?

These people still live in dream land

 

[wangdefa]

Are Iran and Israel still fighting back against each other? Iran should be watching Israeli airports. Whenever their planes take off, you should destroy their airports. So that their planes can't land and lose air superiority, Israel can only shoot missiles at each other each other and pull each other on your level. Are you still afraid that you can't beat them?
Neighbouring countries have made it clear that they are not allowed to use their airports, and even if Israeli planes stop at foreign airports, they can no longer take advantage of air superiority.

 

[Immortals]

IDF has updated their graphics to show Qaani as alive. Disputing previous reports he was KIA. Looks like they don’t have confirmation.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

He and IRGC really didn't want to go war with Israel/USA , they did everything to avoid it ...

NO MATTER what you do to appease and obey the white european races, they will STILL attack and try to destroy ANY non-whites who they feel is a threat/potential threat or they feel insecure about. History has proven this to be true.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Iran rejected close ties with China several times, first with throwing away deals with China to pursue deals with the West in the 2010s. Then also choosing India over China (you have to be braindead to do this). A lot of non-Western peoples have an ingrained mentality of worshiping the West and Iran is no different. But times have changed. China actually has more to offer than the West nowadays. Hopefully if Iran comes out of this intact, they will learn from their mistakes and follow Pakistan's lead in building up its air power.

We live in hope. Hopefully this conflict will make them see the value in a more sincere relationship.

 

[OldTwilight]

یک ضرب المثل لری هست که می که :
« امام حسین که لشکرش ای بی ، جرش چه بی، شرش چه بی »

امام حسین که این لشکرش بود ، چه جنگی داشت.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

I'd say even if you're non nuclear unless you have conventional parity or atleast a significant qualitative advantage then it's a bad matchup.

Yeah, this.

Iran needed a strategy designed to repulse the Israeli Air Force, or at least make it difficult for them to attempt it. First mistake.

Iran was deeply compromised at various levels, second mistake.

It also had a basic weakness of long range missiles unable to hit targets of value with extreme accuracy while also trying to penetrate heavily defended air space. I think this is a fundamental issue with ballistic missiles, plus they cost a lot to be a main force.

 

[ShapurII]

Disagree. Egypt reportedly has a chemical weapons deterrent against Israel.

It would be wrong to assume the problem here was simply due to a lack of nuclear weapons — not saying they wouldn't be a detterent in themselves — but the problem here was conventional deterrence.

1. Iran was deeply compromised. Intelligence assets of the enemy had infiltrated and established themselves, were extracting information.

2. Iran had no answer to repulse air force attacks or at least make it far more difficult.

3. Missile-only deterrence is fundamentally limited. It's hard to hit things of value with extreme accuracy from a very long range, while also trying to bypass heavily defended air space.

Chemical weapons to nuclear weapons are like a fart against a thunder.

Egypt surrendered in 1980. They are now complicit in the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Completely irrelevant.

Iran does have conventional deterrence. Iran can completely destroy every critical infrastructure that Israel has and force them to stop the war. Yet, the decision makers in Iran do not dare to execute it because Israel is a nuclear state ruled by a mad dog who does what he says, unlike the Ayatollahs.

 

[Bilal]

Iran rejected close ties with China several times, first with throwing away deals with China to pursue deals with the West in the 2010s. Then also choosing India over China (you have to be braindead to do this). A lot of non-Western peoples have an ingrained mentality of worshiping the West and Iran is no different. But times have changed. China actually has more to offer than the West nowadays. Hopefully if Iran comes out of this intact, they will learn from their mistakes and follow Pakistan's lead in building up its air power.

More importantly become part of the regional grouping and partnerships and not look at it as competition or host elements that target the regional integration projects.

 

[Yasser76]

Wow! According to the Guardian Wang Yi phoned both Israeli and Iranian FMs. Told them both China would "support Tehran in “defending its legitimate rights and interests”,

Blasts heard in Israeli cities as missiles evade air defence systems – as it happened

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[A1Kaid]

They will probably succeed if we can't deter them.
They will first bomb our ground forces, then the roads around those places.

The only way to deter at this point is to commit to heavy bombardment of Israel and hitting HVTs and special military assets.

Hit their airports (civil and military) and naval ports making it difficult to resupply Israel.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I'm afraid it's too late for that now. Iran should first retake her skies from the Israeli air force before we can assemble a nuclear device.

It's never too late. JUST DO IT!.

 

[Hayabusa]

This looks very bleak from Iran.

I was optimistic initially when they launched missiles. But Israel is able to pick up the launchers one by one.

Iran's air defences are also compromised.

I am at loss of words. It is disappointing that no one is helping our Iran.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Chemical weapons to nuclear weapons are like a fart against a thunder.

Egypt surrendered in 1980. They are now complicit in the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Completely irrelevant.

Iran does have conventional deterrence. Iran can completely destroy every critical infrastructure that Israel has and force them to stop the war. Yet, the decision makers in Iran do not dare to execute it because Israel is a nuclear state ruled by a mad dog who does what he says, unlike the Ayatollahs.

Israel is tiny. In the Israeli context, chemical weapons of wide-area effect can be dangerous, theoretically speaking.