Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

They are no where near the top. They kill civilians and fight powers which they know they have an edge in certain areas e.g. no air force.

This, IDF boasting about eliminating IIAF... What airforce would that be exactly ?

I think the main damage to Iran has been from traitors internally who supported hostile covert activity and provided real-time targeting information.

That is what partially disabled Iran in the first 18 hours. Sadly the sudden loss of top echelon leadership in a large centralised military similar to Russia meant there were no strategic and tactical commanders to tell button pushers what to do.

Footage of advanced ADS just parked out in the open without out cover on concealment like sitting ducks. Easy pickings for IDF.

The first 18 hours really took a lot of bite out of the Iranian capability. Even the look at what Iran achieved with just 200 or so missiles, imagine of they had been able to safeguard their missile cities and deploy large volume of offensive activity against Israel they could have easily overwhelmed Israeli much vaunted "shield".

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Mobilize them to do what? Tell them to wear jet engines and fight with Israeli air force in the air? lol

This isn't a national protest to call in Basij to suppress.

Most of the attacks are done through mini drones launched by Mossad agents on the ground. The Iranian govt needs to mobilize its security forces and people to capture these agents.

 

[Immortals]

As we saw with Houthi conflict. Trump is bi polar.

If Israel doesn’t show massive success soon and oil keeps going up and world stock market keeps going down he will change his tune VERY QUICKLY.

Iran just need to survive for next 2 weeks.

 

[A1Kaid]

Pakistan, China, Russia and North Korea should send anti aircraft weapons along with operators to Iran.

Has Iran officially requested help? Think.

 

[PakFactor]

They are no where near the top. They kill civilians and fight powers which they know they have an edge in certain areas e.g. no air force.
They would get owned by an experienced force. They are made up of conscripts remember.

I wouldn't say Israelis are not at the top; from their spy-OPs and various other activities, they certainly have the upper hand, and for a small country of its size and population, it's packing a punch, or else the neighborhood would have mobilized against it by now.

Within the power structure of the Middle East, they are the undisputed regional power.

 

[Distant_Observer]

All of Israels ADs are centred around population centres .....

They are scattered everywhere. They would have a layer of ADs around HVTs.

 

[flyingorca]

They were not arrogant. No one would provide them components. No one would sell them air defense systems or fighter jets. They tried to.

Israeli air strips are likely for show. In most situations their fighter jets are taking off from civilian disguised facilities and underground runways. Even if you hate those air bases, they just repair the roads quickly. They are using civilian installations for their military mobilization.

Wait, they are using underground runways? Wow did not know that.

 

[Immortals]

The real Isfahan project is inside the mountain where they are building Fordow 2 that is much bigger and deeper than Fordow 1

 

[MastanKhan]

If any country can face cruel israel among all the muslim countries in these times, its Iran.

Hi,

Welcome to the forum sir---.

Please send over the stuff you are smoking to this old man---. I need that dose of euphoria---.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

If no Iranian attack tonight, I suspect two things are happening (or uneducated guess)

1. .
2. surrender!



both equally devastating! hold on to your hats!

 

[Eşbah]

Channel 13, quoting Israeli security official:

We can’t fully destroy Iran’s nuclear infrastructure — it’s clear this will end in a deal.



If they succeed in undermining the regime to the point where it perceives a threat to its very existence, it is likely that they will consent to a demilitarized, non-nuclear Iran that poses no threat to anyone.

Keep in mind, this conflict revolves around power; religious beliefs take a backseat despite being so popular on the surface.

Any politician, regime, or party in power will prioritize its own survival over patriotism. Make no mistake. History consistently provides evidence that this is a recurring truth.

No doubt, Israel has the capacity to withstand and absorb the effects of every missile in Iran's arsenal thanks to US, French, British and German assistance in coordination with Jordan and the Gulf countries.

More significantly, they have successfully dismantled and hindered Iran's capability to restock its weapons supply. If Iran doesn't surprise us tonight with a significant impact on Israel, I don't think there's any hope left unfortunately.

 

[EugeneP]

The Iranian internal security has really slept on the job or perhaps the leadership was working with Mossad. I mean how could Mossad build this huge network without being detected? Heads need to roll here.

This constant emphasis on Mossad makes them sound like some Supermen. Reality is, the current leadership of Iran is really unpopular with too many Iranians, and they are very glad to have a regime change.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You provided them logistics for the invasion of Afghanistan. You allowed them to bomb your civilians in 2003. Let's not digress. This thread is about something else, but stop seeing everything as it is about racism. It's usually, almost always, about money instead of racism. If the IR falls and a puppet regime by Reza Pahlavi is installed, we will HAVE to be pro-American and pro-Zionist.

If the Americans and the Jews are fed with money and feel safe from us, they will leave us alone. The same kind of deal they have with the Saudis. And we have enough natural resources to give them what they want, and some Iranians are even more pro-Israel than Americans and Indians. So, Iran by itself is not a threat to them if it turns into a puppet state.

At the time, Pakistan had NO other choice. I agree we should not digress here.

I will strongly disagree with you on the money part. As far as white europeans are concerned, it is ALWAYS about race. The white european israelis are genociding the Palestinians with impunity. Would they do that if the Palestinians were white europeans and not brown/olive-skinned Muslims?

 

[ShapurII]

Iran just need to survive for next 2 weeks.

Even if Iran survives for the next 2 weeks, the regime will still be toppled soon.

I mean even our passenger aircrafts have been hit. Do you expect people to travel by car from now on?

 

[Aggregate]

yes, China probably a more reliable ally because China has a massive industrial complex
but I am not sure the Chinese love the Mullahs, in the same way they love Putin.
in my opinion the russians just have a bigger mouth.
I am little shocked of the weakness of Iran military.
The Israelis military has proven again they are world class, nobody comes close.

Dude the world has self respect unlike Vietnam who love licking the feet of whites & Zionists who decimated them. nobody needs lessons from you.

Iran survived 8+ years of Iraq+ Israel + US. At that time Iraq hit them more every single day (including chemical weapons) than Israel can do in a month. they survived that, they can survive your little Zionist masters too no problem. Your Zionist masters could not control the tiny Gaza since last 2 years and you are calling them world class.

Don't insult humanity by calling those child murderers "world class". Or at least have some self respect for yourself before praising them.