Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[battalion25]

This is assuming US do not get involved eventually.

US offer for Iran is to dismantle the nuclear program (correct me if wrong), had Iran agreed to that anway none of this would have happened, and it’s increasingly less likely after Israel’s attack.

Is US going to accept a Iran with continued nuclear program? Then disregard everything I wrote.

From an American POV I don´t know why they allowed Israel to launch this attack it was a miscalculation..

How did the American generals and think-tanks allowed it to go ahead is beyond me because they must fully know that no matter what you do you can´t destroy Fordow it is under the ground not even with Nuclear hence why start targetting Iran´s military arsenal and oil Installations if you can´t take out the Nuclear weapon capability.

This whole thing was flawed from the beginning to be fairly honest. If they were thinking you know what we will put a tactical team to land on Fordow that is to much wishy washy but the only option was an incursion anything else was a miscalculation from the get go.

The Jews wanted some ridiculous media glorification which backfired big time in itself because they didn´t even get that.

If I was the US general I would have been pragmatic and asked the President you wanna disarm Iran? yes or no because there is really only one method.

Call me crazy but the Americans never green-lighted this because this is amaturish move I think Nathanyahu and his right wing elements just jumped the gun

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Ah nonsense. I just judge the military from technical standpoint. nothing else, put all bias aside with all racial and nationalistic shit.
Look at the size. Iran is how much larger than Israel?

Same logic could be applied to Pakistan v. India.

 

[ToddE]

We can safely say that entire world has no answer to hypersonic MaRVs. THAAD, PAC series or whatever you put in layers, they are just unstoppable.

 

[OldTwilight]

This is a historic opportunity for egypt and Jordan to cease the opportunity and send in 70+ fighters each.

against Iran ?!

 

[HAIDER]

Nothing new, West is together to eliminate the leaders of the Muslim world.

 

[sambody]

It is in China's strategic interest to make sure America's little sheriff Israel doesn't dominate the region, freeing up the US to focus on East Asia.

In fact, quite the opposite. The more the US and Europe are bogged down in the Middle East, the less trouble they can cause in East Asia.

China is not invested in Iran militarily like it is in Pakistan or North Korea.

Israel dominating Middle East is an overstatement. It may be the dominant military power but it is too small in other geopolitical aspects.

China will support Iran diplomatically but, like most other countries, it would prefer a quick end to the war and Iran signing a nuclear deal that will prevent future armed conflict. There would be a very high threshold to cross before it considers providing military support.

 

[StormBreaker]

Thing is, China is a very business minded nation, it's very transactional with the Chinese.

Unless you have personal dealings with Chinese people you cannot appreciate how rigid they can sometimes be.

For China to bank on Iran they need to be shown how it helps their "bottom line". Besides China sees the Iranian/Indian jointly operated port as a problem.

If that can be overlooked and if China sees value in banking on Iran as some form of bridgehead into greater access and influence over Lavant nations, perhaps.

North Korea may sell bits and bobs, but the logistics of getting it from A to B is near impossible as they do not share a land border and sea freight can be interdicted and would take too long.

I’ve dealt with Chinese and you’re right. You can relate them with the nature of dwarves from tolkien folklore.

But will China offer iran an opportunity to shift their alliance, remove India from Chahbar?

Pakistan can use this opportunity to get the iran-pak gas pipeline issue resolved by Limited backdoor assistance

 

[Blueishere]

yes, China probably a more reliable ally because China has a massive industrial complex
but I am not sure the Chinese love the Mullahs, in the same way they love Putin.
in my opinion the russians just have a bigger mouth.
I am little shocked of the weakness of Iran military.
The Israelis military has proven again they are world class, nobody comes close.

I would say the Israeli Mossad has proven world class, but Military isn't a fair comparison.

 

[StormBreaker]

against Iran ?!

Israel.

3 word post limit

 

[RescueRanger]

I’ve dealt with Chinese and you’re right. You can relate them with the nature of dwarves from tolkien folklore.

But will China offer iran an opportunity to shift their alliance, remove India from Chahbar?

Pakistan can use this opportunity to get the iran-pak gas pipeline issue resolved by Limited backdoor assistance

Logically it always made sense for Iran to align itself with China and Pakistan, but this damn India has been a kebab mey haddi since 1948.

 

[Blueishere]

This is a historic opportunity for egypt and Jordan to cease the opportunity and send in 70+ fighters each.

I don't think Egypt would dream of that, and Jordan would likely send jets against Iran before the thought of betraying their owner Israel.

 

[ShapurII]

I would say the Israeli Mossad has proven world class, but Military isn't a fair comparison.

It's the US that shares intelligence with them. Mossad gets her intelligence from the CIA and the NSA.

 

[StormBreaker]

You expect too much from the Jordians.

Unfortunate really!

The moment Israel is crushed, KSA, UAE, and the GCC will break free from their fear shackles to some extent.

It takes one rogue man to take such historic decisions.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China is not invested in Iran militarily like it is in Pakistan or North Korea.

Israel dominating Middle East is an overstatement. It may be the dominant military power but it is too small in other geopolitical aspects.

China will support Iran diplomatically but, like most other countries, it would prefer a quick end to the war and Iran signing a nuclear deal that will prevent future armed conflict. There would be a very high threshold to cross before it considers providing military support.

China does military support Pakistan, but not North Korea.

You can see that NK's new weapons are more closely related to Russia than to China.

China is likely re-assessing to form alliance with Iran.

As mentioned previously, both side should ditch its pro-west reformists.

It is no time for economy right now.

 

[Olympus81]

There needs to be a regime change operation triggered in Egypt and Jordan.

These 2 countries are knee deep in the zionist sphere of influence.