Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[pashtunkoum]

Well Russia sure turned out to be a dependable ally right?
Iran gave drones, other equipment etc, much of it they could not afford to, and Russia sat back watching Israel take it apart with US help.

Russia is like a rich persons India. Incompetent and deluded about their strengths + never loyal to allies.

 

[Tijani]

إِنَّا لِلّهِ وَإِنَّـا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعونَ​

Inna lillaahi wa innaa ilayhi raajihuun

 

[the saint]

 

[pashtunkoum]

At the end of the day, Russians are WHITE PEOPLE. Whites especially if they're not Muslims can't be trusted to help us in war.

And if the white are muslims then what?

And will you trust a white muslim or brown Christian?

Also at what stage do you consider someone "white". Are Italians from Rome white? Are Portuguese like Ronaldo white? Are Lebanese white?

do you think these things through before suggesting a race war?

 

[Waz]

Russia is like a rich persons India. Incompetent and deluded about their strengths + never loyal to allies.

Yep. Hope Pakistanis stop looking up to this stupid, ungrateful lot.

 

[Nevsky]

I'm too lazy to evaluate your failure. Russia has been fighting for three years but still can't take over Ukraine. China has been constantly criticized and squeezed by the West for maintaining economic and trade relations with you. We also offered J10, but Iran chose to trade with you. Where is your Su35? Where is your military support? When Iran is really invaded, tell me about oil trading. We are not giving away free oil when we spend money on it. Your deceitful behavior makes people laugh. The military responsibility lies with you, not with me, because of your last-minute escape. Blame China? Incompetent and ridiculous

Yea, Russia is fighting for 3 years against 30+ million country, which used to be the most industrialized part of the USSR and its being backed by the whole NATO and its getting US surveillance in real time.
I doubt that you can understand that, keeping in mind that the last time you tried to go to war, the small and war torn Vietnam knocked you off.

You didnt offered J-10, you liar. The Iranians offered you to buy J-10 and to pay you with oil, but you refused.
And no China is not yet being squeezed by the West, but it will be eventually and it wont have anything to do with Russia.
As for sanctions, you are complying with pretty much all of them, even some of your banks that dont do any operation with the West are complying. The payments to China are getting harder and harder to make and the costs are going up on a monthly basis, because of the payment agents.

Ofc, every "responsibility" lies with "me". You have none, apart from producing cheap goods for the West.

 

[RescueRanger]

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You better not show that map to Zaid Hamid... #Justsaying...

 

[hussain0216]

Which is why I browse multiple news sites. Eventually I get the full story. Or at least 80% of it.

It's bad when The Daily Mail and National Enquirer are more accurate.

Daily mail is a right wing rag

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

A lot of propaganda going on, 95% of social media is propaganda. No panic guys. Cup of tea is needed, this will be the end of trump and netanyahu regime. Some EU regimes could also fall.

 

[Waz]

Maybe Russia and China are providing intel, things we cannot see.

The Russians are not doing anything, not a shred of proof of it. Look at the damage the IAF is doing now.

 

[arjunk]

First of all, as a muslim stop using swear words like that with Allah in the same sentence.

Second, India is a very different enemy to Israel. Iran would have absolutely obliterated India with Ballistic missiles and if India was the enemy they had to face, they'd build their army accordingly.

There is nothing wrong with looking up to other nations as part of the same muslim Ummah. Not everything is about some complex.

Iran under sanctions is/was a leading example of ingenuity and hard work. They are amongst the most educated muslims in the world. It is you who needs to get out of insecurity thinking praising another nation means Pakistan is pathetic.

An incompetent enemy in India has left you delusional.

Of course Iranian scientists and people deserve utmost respect for their work under sanctions. We all wished Iran would win the war.

However, all these arguments by fanboys of IRI focus on emotional rhetoric. wars are not won with crying, they are won with tactics and strategy, which Iran lacked in, even Iranian members themselves are wondering, WTF Iran was doing gathering its top generals in softened targets to be plucked off by Israelis.

You speak of incompetence, was it not severe incompetence on the part of the Iranians to not anticipate such an attack (when even foreign civilians like you and I knew something was cooking) and allow their top leadership to be eliminated like sitting ducks in soft buildings? Was it not incompetence for the Axis and IRGC to refuse to go all out with Hezb + Iranian missiles (103,000 total) instead of sitting like ducks and letting themselves be picked off one by one? Everyone saw this coming from a mile away.

Iranian national leadership and policies have been utterly incompetent, Iranians themselves are saying it but Pakistani IRGC fanboys from Bradford and Lahore refuse to accept reality. This is a defence forum not a propaganda forum we have to face the truth and learn from . As for incompetence Iranian foreign policy I don't want to repeat what others and I have said in this thread about Syria, Pakistan, etc.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Rescue Ranger, Fatman17, will this change the Pakistani love for German weapons?

 

[The SC]

Urgent | The Israeli army: We attacked the headquarters of the Revolutionary Guards, including the Quds Force, and we killed the chief of staff, Shadmani

 

[pashtunkoum]

Yea, Russia is fighting for 3 years against 30+ million country, which used to be the most industrialized part of the USSR and its being backed by the whole NATO and its getting US surveillance in real time.
I doubt that you can understand that, keeping in mind that the last time you tried to go to war, the small and war torn Vietnam knocked you off.

You didnt offered J-10, you liar. The Iranians offered you to buy J-10 and to pay you with oil, but you refused.
And no China is not yet being squeezed by the West, but it will be eventually and it wont have anything to do with Russia.
As for sanctions, you are complying with pretty much most of them, even some of your banks that dont do any operation with the West are complying. The payments to China are getting harder and harder to make and the costs are going up on a monthly basis, because of the payment agents.

Ofc, every "responsibility" lies with "me". You have none, apart from producing cheap goods for the West.

So Iran, a country under all sorts of sanctions can provide Russia with drones

but Russia, a country that is supposedly doing great, cannot provide Iran with the most basic ADS?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Daily mail is a right wing rag

Balances out my reading of CNN.