Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Trumpy's surrender or else basically means give up nuclear program, disarm missiles and accept palavi or someone friendly as the new leader.

So its either give up and maybe get exiled if your lucky or go down fighting and destroy the country.

First option country could either get destroyed by infighting or might change and become prosperous, but would have to be like Gulf countries friendly with Israel.

These are tough options, not sure really what the right move is if you want to save the nation.
 
PakSword said:
“They [the Muslims] will then fight and a third of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah’s eye, would be killed, and the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople.” [Muslim]

Turkey will fall too. Before Pakistan or after Pakistan, does not matter.
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I want to add further points, according to my understandings, from Ahadith related to End Times.

A Great War that starts in ME
A Great War will start around Euphrates (over Euphrates gold - some Ulmas say it's petrodollar). 99% population will die (most probably of participating countries or of whole world). Arabian sea / Persian Gulf will be closed. It will happen during reign of Imam Mehdi A.S.

An army from Khurasan will free Al-Quds.

Armageddon
(Either it's part of above 6y world war or after it) Christians and forces of evil will land in Golan/Levant area under 80 flags with 12k soldiers under each flag (12k×80=960k). 1/3rd of Muslim forces would flee, 1/3 would be martyred, 1/3 would get victory. After that Muslims will conquer Constantinople. Then Dajjal (anti-Christ) will emerge from Isfahan alongside 80k jews.

Currently, Iran-Israel war is not that predicted 6y war, as Imam Mehdi A.S. has still not come.

Constantinople most probably will either fall during 6y great war or during Christians march to Armageddon.

Pakistan will not fall, In Shaa ALLAH. Victory in Ghazwa-e-Hind will save us. Even if most of our army and population gets martyrdom, Afghans & Central Asians know how to conquer indian subcontinent for the nth time.
 
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Almost 24h after terrorist attack on national TV of Iran they are following their rutine programs as usual :). heard some cool new cool music at one of their programs ( sorry forgot it's name )

But still I like older stuff like Alireza Asar's Vatan



enjoy :) (btw internet connection today is a little bit worst )
Aryan_B said:
Guys I have been reading this thread and getting more and more depressed. What is the matter with you?

Iran fought against Iraq for nearly a decade. Iraq was supported by the GCC states and America. Iran more than survived.

Israel is nothing its America that Iran faces. Israel is weak or even weaker than Jordan without American money and weapons. Whats this bullshit about Is pedo Trump going to decide to bring America in. America are already in there.

Mistakes may have been made in the past but now is not the time for whining about that.

I have faith in Allah and I pray that he gives Iran Victory.
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The problem with their view is that they forgot, Soviet Union fell apart with biggest nuclear arsenal on top of too much military achievements out there ! when their problem was determination/will of the people.

This is the same point Zionists and Americans are pushing now against Iran.

They forgot Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan history ...
 


World leaders try to predict Trump's next move​

Chris Mason
Political editor, reporting from the G7 summit in Canada
BBC

World leaders here at the G7 appear to be trying to second guess what President Donald Trump may or may not do next in the Middle East.

The German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the leaders had "talked about" American involvement.

Sir Keir Starmer had suggested earlier, before the US President’s more recent comments, that Trump hadn’t said anything that suggested he was about to get involved.

Things changed rather rapidly within hours of those remarks.

So, in short, the G7 is trying to second guess what President Trump is up to.

Iran and the Iranian people are trying to do the same. And so is the wider world. Which may well be exactly the point.

How does the Iranian regime and how do the Iranian people react to this huge uptick in threatening language and posture from the US?

I asked Sir Keir Starmer if he would welcome people in Iran overthrowing the government there.

"I'm no supporter of the regime in Iran," he told me.

"So, if the people there rose up against it, you'd welcome that?" I asked.

"Look, it's not for me as the UK prime minister to start, you know, encouraging people in relation to what they might do at home. My absolute focus is on the need to deescalate this."

The questions now are how, when and at what cost that might come about.
 
Persian Gulf said:
who said they are empty, all of the killed settlers are from those buildings being destroyed and falling on their heads in the shelters underneath

destroying their neighbourhoods creates a cost for them and their people for this war, we can't match their military symmetrically

our missiles are not accurate enough for targeted strikes against individuals or military targets
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Do you they really care about losing few thousands of their people if they can achieve victory !?

Just be realistic...
 
' The F-35 is a fragile aircraft. It was not designed for heavy constant use. '

From an American analyst. Currently their doing lot of flying.

After a month?
 

Regime change in Iran would result in 'chaos', Macron says
BBC​


Macron speaking to reporters in Alberta, Canada


Image source, AFP via Getty Images

France's President Emmanuel Macron has just spoken at the G7 summit in Canada.

He says it would be a big error for a regime change in Iran to be achieved through military means, according to reporting from Reuters and the AFP news agency.

He says a regime change would bring "chaos" and he believes nations should come back to the negotiation table to discuss Iran's nuclear programme.

"I believe we need the United States of America to bring everyone back around the table," he says.
 
lightning f57 said:
Trumpy's surrender or else basically means give up nuclear program, disarm missiles and accept palavi or someone friendly as the new leader.

So its either give up and maybe get exiled if your lucky or go down fighting and destroy the country.

First option country could either get destroyed by infighting or might change and become prosperous, but would have to be like Gulf countries friendly with Israel.

These are tough options, not sure really what the right move is if you want to save the nation.
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If Iran surrenders, it will get regime change too.

Then either it will become another Libya (worst outcome for Pak & the whole region) or become Israeli puppet state like Jordan.
 
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