Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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As I said multiple times in the India-Pakistan conflict thread: Indian workforce should be as thoroughly kicked out of the Middle East as possible and replaced with Pakistanis, Bangladeshi.. anyone but Indians. There is potential of tens of billions of $ for Pakistan via remittances if that happens, which would be a game changer for Pakistan's economy. And, yes, Pakistan has too much surplus labor to worry about 'brain drain'. Most poor countries of the world may complain about 'brain drain' but don't mind getting the $$ AND fresh discourse/tech from their expats.

Yeah, Pakistanis are different in that respect. I mean look at the UK. I was living in London for years and I hardly ever saw any 'white people' other than the very central London. The place has fully turned into another Pakistan. But No matter what the Pakistanis are there, and no matter how many of them there are, they are never ever, sabotagers. Far from it.

Indians with their newfound (although ill-founded) sense of superiority are trying to run their own politics everywhere as each feels like they are a mini James-Bond in their own right serving Indian interests no matter where they live. they see every country, every nationality with a filter of pro-India/anti-India. The whole psyche has changed since BJP/RSS started running India and the guys have no respect for anyone anymore. They might have been different in the past but they have become pretty dangerous in a matter of hindutva type ideologies now. Maybe that's why the US is already kicking them out. Middle East usually follows US in every single thing so they might start it soon enough as well.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

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A critical juncture​

BBC​

Frank Gardner
Security correspondent

This conflict has now reached a critical juncture. What Donald Trump decides to do or not to do could shape what happens next in the Middle East.

Today’s televised broadcast from Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has dispelled any misguided hopes that the Islamic Republic was about to sue for peace.

On the contrary, the ageing Ayatollah has thrown down his own gauntlet to Trump, threatening dire retaliation if America joins in Israel’s attacks.

Iran may have been severely weakened, not just by the last few days’ sustained Israeli air strikes but by the loss or dismantling of its regional proxies in Lebanon, Syria and Gaza.

But it can still do a lot of damage. Top of its target list if the US attacks Iran will be the numerous US bases spread up and down the Gulf. The US Navy’s 5th Fleet HQ at Mina Salman in Bahrain is an obvious target but so too are America’s bases in Iraq and Kuwait.

But it doesn’t end there. The September 2019 massed drone attack on Saudi Arabia’s petrochemical industry was a salutary lesson in just how vulnerable the Gulf’s economic assets are to Iranian missiles and drones.

If the Iranian regime felt its very survival was in danger, or if it decided its Gulf Arab neighbours were complicit in attacking it then it could well be tempted to lash out at desalination plants, oil export terminals or even mine the strategic Strait of Hormuz, choking off nearly 30% of the world’s oil supplies.

So basically a win-win for Israel then. A bigger conflict where Iran hits US and its Arab poodles, causing economic damage to both. Americans might just bomb and **** off, leaving Iranians, Arabs, Shia, Sunnis to continue killing each other for years. We have seen that already in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Searching a ceasefire is the best scenario for Iran

Anyone here wanting the US to bomb Iran to "see how Iran will respond" are either not Iranian, or traitors wanting Iran bombed for the sake of seeing missiles fired at US bases

Iran needs to prepare everything to come back strong in the long term

this 'thought' of ceasefire came after internal intelligence failure..

I respect your feeling, going through very tough times... but there may not be next time!

 

[tsunset]

There is a clip going around in which an analyst on Israeli TV is accusing Pakistan of providing arms to Iran.

Pakistan is definitely helping Iran

There is a reason why the IDF and IDF-India propaganda/cope branch has been activated at full capacity

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

He looks more jew than jews themselves, proper shylock looking mofo

 

[the saint]

 

[ghazi52]

Latest satellite imagery shows damage to Iranian missile base and airport​

By Joshua Cheetham

The BBC along with other international media cannot report from inside Iran, so satellite imagery is a key tool for us to see and verify what is happening in the country as Israel’s attacks continue.

The latest pictures have come to us from the specialist satellite imaging firm Maxar. They appear to show extensive damage to Tabriz missile base with at least nine buildings and two tunnel entrances destroyed. Several others are heavily damaged.

Maxar’s imaging has also captured potential evidence of strikes against Mashhad airport, about 750km (470 miles) east of Tehran. We can see a large aircraft has been destroyed, with only the tail left intact.

Another image shows what Maxar describe as Shahed drones stored on trailers and fighter aircraft at Dezful air force base in western Iran.

We’ve shared these images with experts to get a better understanding of what’s been targeted, and what impact this will have on Iran’s military capability.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Hi

Firstly it is important to state what the Israelis and Americans are doing is NOT to degrade the Iranian Nuclear program, it is to carry out a forced regieme change.

But since you asked the question allow me to help
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As you can see from the above timeline which I have created sorry its a little long xD... Iran has worked really hard to develop its nuclear program which is largely peaceful but you will seen that it has taken 10 years for Iran to spin enough centrifuges to get its 20% enriched uranium to 60% uranium. For reference 90% purity enriched Uranium is what is required for the development of nuclear weapons.

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What the Israelis are trying to do by targeting Iranian nuclear sites is to destroy those centrifuges that purify Iran's uranium, doing so will set Iran's nuclear program back decades.

Iran's current Enrichment stockpiles:
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How long would it take for Iran to develop a weapon (IN THEORY)
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Note: Data is from the latest International Atomic Energy Agency monitoring report for each each year and is current as of May 17, 2025. Values represent production of enriched uranium material. Building a nuclear weapon would require more time before it was viable.

Source: International Atomic Energy Agency, Wisconsin Project on Nuclear Arms Control's Iran Watch, Institute for Science and International Security

IMO, regime change isn't going to happen unless they bring ground troops. Israel wanted a shock & awe campaign and took away all hopes, create absolute chaos, anarchy and annihiliate any counter attack capabilities at first go. But Iran was able to regroup after major initial blows. They are still able to bring out those huge missiles and strike TelAviv daily despite all the satellites, sensors watching everytime. Which shows that C&C is still functional.

Israelis wanted regime change and are killing top leaders and want to kill khamenei too but they all will be replaced by their juniors and regime change isn't going to happen unless their is internal revolt OR massive ground invasion. Both look impossible right now. There are no signs for ground invasion and no signs for internal revolt at the scale that can replace a regime or leaders with Pro-Western minded leaders. Whoever will take place of Khamenei will also be same mindset. That's just my opinion.

 

[the saint]

naysayers say Iran didn't do anything...

 

[ghazi52]

Striking Iran would open "Pandora’s box" and likely consume Trump’s presidency, analyst warns​

From CNN’s Olivia Kemp

A message addressed to US President Donald Trump is pictured in Tel Aviv, Israel, on Wednesday.
Gil Cohen-Magen/AFP/Getty Images
US President Donald Trump is facing a critical decision between taking “a diplomatic off ramp” or “a war of choice,” Ellie Geranmayeh, a senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations, told CNN.

“Leaders always have a choice in these moments,” she said. “Trump has, in the past, stepped back from the brink of war with Iran, he has the ability to do so again.”


Geranmayeh added that “Iran will view this as a declaration of war,” if Trump decides to strike its nuclear facilities.

“Once you open up this Pandora’s box, we have no idea where things go,” Geranmayeh said, adding that the conflict would “most likely consume the rest of President Trump’s presidency.”

For Iran, she added, “surrender is not an option.”

“It also knows it is not going to win militarily, but it’s trying to ensure that there are only losers here,” Geranmayeh said.

 

[ghazi52]

New satellite imagery from Iran shows damage to key military facilities​

From CNN’s Gianluca Mezzofiore and Antoinette Radford

Satellite images obtained by CNN show significant damage to Iran’s Tabriz missile base and the Mashhad airfield.

Before-and-after imagery released by satellite company Maxar of the Tabriz missile complex in northwest Iran on June 17 shows entire storage buildings razed to the ground, and large craters on the roads within the facility. Several vehicle tunnels were also struck and heavily damaged at the site, according to the pictures.

image shows Tabriz missile base in in Iran before airstrikes on May 29.
Maxar Technologies

Satellite image shows Tabriz missile base in in Iran after airstrikes on June 17.
Maxar Technologies

At the Mashhad airport, in the northeast of the country, an Iranian tanker aircraft was hit and completely destroyed, the images reveal. Only the tail of the plane is visible among charred debris in the imagery, also from June 17, after the strike.

Satellite photo shows Mashhad airport, Iran, before an airstrike on June 13.
Maxar Technologies

Satellite photo shows Mashhad airport, Iran, after an airstrike on June 17.
Maxar Technologies

Israel launched a wave of attacks involving more than 50 aircraft on Iranian centrifuge and missile production sites overnight, according to the Israeli military early Wednesday.

Iran’s semi-official Mehr News Agency also claimed overnight that Iran launched Fattah hypersonic missiles toward Israel. CNN cannot independently verify the claims.

 

[Olympus81]

Whats the report on Iran’s missile wave last night?

 

[RescueRanger]

Mossad Micro Drone truck captured by Iranian Security Forces inside Iran:




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Can someone confirm or clarify is that an end cap from a Javelin missile?

 

[RescueRanger]

IMO, regime change isn't going to happen unless they bring ground troops. Israel wanted a shock & awe campaign and took away all hopes, create absolute chaos, anarchy and annihiliate any counter attack capabilities at first go. But Iran was able to regroup after major initial blows. They are still able to bring out those huge missiles and strike TelAviv daily despite all the satellites, sensors watching everytime. Which shows that C&C is still functional.

Israelis wanted regime change and are killing top leaders and want to kill khamenei too but they all will be replaced by their juniors and regime change isn't going to happen unless their is internal revolt OR massive ground invasion. Both look impossible right now. There are no signs for ground invasion and no signs for internal revolt at the scale that can replace a regime or leaders with Pro-Western minded leaders. Whoever will take place of Khamenei will also be same mindset. That's just my opinion.

Its a Israeli wet-dream to implement regime change, in their warmongering drug addled minds they believe that if they destabilise Iran enough, the people inside Iran will revolt against the present government.

 

[Falcon Junoon]

Too many people have said the Indian spies role in Iran to ignore it. But I'd be surprised if it was India's official policy to aid Israel in Iran. Makes no sense? The collaboration would be eventually caught and then India would lose a vital leverage against Pakistan. But if India even tolerated such collaboration with Mossad against Iran then it will be a historic blunder.

India bet on Israeli conquest of Iran with US help. For India, having Israel in Pakistan's west is always better than having IR there.

They underestimated Iranian resolve to fight for their homeland.