Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

How recent is this?

The attack plans were reported to be approved yesterday and was all over the media. Along with the President has not signed the "Go" order yet.
True, it references the approval on Tuesday, reported yesterday, but no “Go” order just yet.
 
Wrong thread...

To be fair, everything applies to the iranians too and they have even more to work out

If they wake up, they could get in better terms with China, Pakistan, Turkey to the point where in conflict they have support
 
To be fair, everything applies to the iranians too and they have even more to work out

If they wake up, they could get in better terms with China, Pakistan, Turkey to the point where in conflict they have support
To be fair we have drawn a line here as mods. No pak discussions here. You have a specific thread for Pak security issues discuss there.
 
Israeli citizens are better prepared for war and are well supported by their government and private agencies. I can't say the same about Iranian citizens.

If you are counting on demoralizing the average Israeli citizen through Iranian missile strikes then don't bet on it.
While it's true that wars tend to unify nations, and lionize populations, losing wars has the opposite affect and can have severe consequences.

Israelis may technically be better in the long run when it comes to rebuilding and support for citizenry, in the short term it's questionable.

Iran has shown in every single one of its wars that it is willing to suffer so long as it doesn't lose.

Israelis have had this same mentality in the past, but being rich and living in posh villas and rich communist-run Kibbutz has eroded that mentality. It's massive defenses has actually worked against preparing Israelis for a long war against actual near peer foes and not just against insurgents and militant groups, because it gave them a false sense of security.

Clearly Israel thought Iran would just be another Hamas/Hezbullah situation where they'd be able to bomb them into submission. They've just found out what happens when you start getting addicted to the smell of your own farts.

I think we'll see Israeli society crack sooner than Iranian society.
 
@Persian Gulf according to Pakistani media USA will launch attack on Iran within next two days. I will say, in these two days blast each and every airport, military airbases , sea ports of Israel as much as you can. I suppose B2s will be used to deliver bunker busters, so don't wait for too long to use whatever best is available with you. May Allah be with Iran.
 
It does not work this way, there are only 2 version of internet protocol (TCP), IPv4 and IPv6, if you want use internet, external routing and so on, you are going to need to connect to either otherwise you aren't going to get communication. And both were controlled by the US (DAPRA controlled IPv4, IETF controlled IPv6)

There is a reason why usually it's the FBI that busted dark web (IP/Website that are not searchable) that's because US basically have exclusivity to all IP address. And you can't transmit anything outside your own network without a IP address.

So if they gone dark, that's it, they can't use it at all, it wouldn't matter if China supply Iran with router and everything. Becuase the TCP/IP is going to be the same.

No one owns internet. Its decentralized.
Never heard that DARPA controls IPv4. ICANN's subdivision oversee IPv4. It was fully transitioned into completely a global non-profit org.

I looked up IETF, its completely global group / open source kinda, any one can collaborate / contribute and work for it and get up to the ladder in the organisation.

No FBI or even full force of US govt can do anything about an average internet user in China. If they really were in control of the whole god damn thing, then there was no need for trade wars etc. would have just switched them off.
 
They spent two hours (double scheduled meeting time) discussing Iran and India -- and Hafiz sb invited Trump to visit Pakistan.

Trump got some fresh perspectives from Gen Munir. Very different from what Trump's war mongering AIPAC-funded yes-men have been telling him.
So the little napoleonic complex suffering jannu german who has had it in for Iran for sometime and was fired for it by IK has now seen the light and is challenging Trump on Iran. Sure...
 
I really like how concise and clear the gentleman was despite Karan pushing zionist talking points.
 

Dude never trust Americans or Israelis at this time especially after the Gaza mishap with witkoff right now only thing Iran has going is a show of power this is the only thing that will make trump second guess an attack he loves to hit the guy when he’s down but if Iran is hitting back hard and can directly hurt American interests nearby would be devastating I think Israel knew Iran wasn’t down for the count and was hoping for mass casualty event to have trump put boots on the ground
 

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