Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Persian Gulf said:
to put this in perspective, Tehran is usually considered the main anti-IRI area of the entire country

the war has changed everything

IRI is even using Persian nationalism to unite people

www.aljazeera.com

Israel tried to break Iran – but it may have actually helped unite it

Instead of deepening divisions, Israel’s assault appears to be reinforcing national unity across political lines.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Nothing unprecedented... Sadam`s invasion cemented importance of Persian nationalism among IRI elite, nationalism is crucial when you have to guard own house and yards... that`s the fundament... Iranian traumatic past, but also rich Iranian institutional tradition is crucial to prevent chaos, make basic order etc... Shia Islam is neo-Persian aura of of power projection, Iranian long-hand ability...
3 pillars of modern Persia re-established by Safavids,,,


And even IRI is clear about self-identification... taking some crucial everyday example, like Iranian calendar... `Yes, we are counting time according to Islam, but based on our ancient solar Iranian calendar`..... Message as clear as possible...

Zionists just were overconfident, what is always costly mistake...
 
Persian Gulf said:
Israel admits it has started to ration the use of its interceptor missiles
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Source I did read an article on New York Times saying that yeah in a prolonged war missiles would have to be rationed but not from current officials of isrsel
 
CrniLabud said:
Considering how many missiles the US wasted fighting the Houthis, how many they gave to israel and also wasting in assisting israel, decreasing supplies to Ukraine but still sending some.. 30% of THAAD sent to israel, low stockpiles, etc.
Repositioning naval assets away from the pacific..
China what are you waiting for?!?
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Don't it sound so eerily like World War One like hidden alliances and plan! The Post World War II global order is rapidly breaking. No country is even putting a UNSC Resolution to stop this conflict because it would be Vetoed by one or another country and even if adapted would be ignored. Who is going to enforce Resolutions unless--with a big IF--against some poor powerless country?
We all might benefit from how countries moved against each other as World War One started to settle their 'scores' or grab territory or to help their hidden Treaty allies. We are getting back to 1914.
 
Falcon29 said:
Wow

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"Israel finishes the job, alone. " LOL...

Israel can't survive "alone". Whole of its refueling operation is being carried out by US and some EU countries. The weapon supplies, logistics, intelligence, even interceptions. Everywhere US is holding Israel with both hands. Still these child killers have audacity to say Israel will do it "alone".
 
Avicenna said:


Trump says 2 weeks.

Fool me once shame on you.....Fool me twice.....
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These idiots still think killing the leadership will win them the war.

Khameini was already on the verge of retirement anyway, killing him literally doesn't matter.
 
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AZ_HighCountry said:
I've posted already a couple of times my my own thoughts. The President is in a tough spot. The MAGA base (the sane ones at least) and a lot of Democrats are opposed. A section of the MAGA base is wondering "why haven't we just ended this already?" And then there is the Deep State - Military Industrial Complex. Wars are good for their portfolios.

Already, the spin doctors are out there trying to drum up support. I just came from lunch with a few people who made their position clear.

By delaying this two weeks, the President is sending everyone a message. He's taking a page right out of President Lincoln's playbook. Lincoln was famous for writing letters to someone he was angry with, put them away overnight, and by the next day, after he had a chance to reconsider, throw the letter away. I think we're seeing similar here. Yes, he still maintaining current position; unconditional surrender. Yet, the message is clear.

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that he said "60 days". Not too late to sit down in a backroom somewhere. If Oman is not acting as the intermediary then it's likely Pakistan. Someone is.
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Great insight. I recently went to Gettysburg, took the tour and walked the battlefield. It’s a series of small hills and one large one around the town. Both sides could not see the other literally bidding behind one long hillock. The battle hinged on short distance of a mile between the armies and the third day decided by one army capturing a hill 10 minutes before the other army could arrive. Having see the slaughter at Gettysburg really hit home the war to Lincoln. The causalities as a proportional of the combatants were a small percentage, unlike what we would have believed considering the significance of the battle. His famous address was only a few minutes long, but considering Gettysburg was fought in the north, its ramifications really hit home.

If a war with Iran does happen, it might be too late, as the ramifications may echo for decades, including here at home in the US, just like Iraq still bogs us down in personnel but also trillions in debt, stabilizing a region and paying for a war fought on a false pretext, when we are energy independent ourselves.

Ironically I was listening to the full audiobook of Trump’s Art of the deal during my trip to understand the man better.
 
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