Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Could be a fake out waiting to move more troops out of the region who knows at this point I guarantee you if this is a ploy and just moving troops farther away the baes that will get targeted nearby are certain Arab Arab countries that would be compliant in all of this and Israel will be smiling regarding their death if it occurs let’s hope this isn’t a ploy and trump is throwing Israel to the curb
Hi,

Humans will be moved away---machines will take their place---like frigates, cruisers, subs, aircraft carriers---.

Why did Iran not start with the hypersonic missiles from the start---???

That is a head scratcher---.
 
Pakistan must test some of their missiles if they remove any identification markings and re paint it then secretely deliver ghauri 2, shaheen 2 and shaheen 3 and ababeel missiles to iran for some testing?

I know it sounds foolish and it wont happen but if something like this is done than that would be very soothing especially for us pakistani

I so wish we could do this

Just to test a few of them against the interceptor, see how they work
 
I'll take your question in the proper context.

First, as I have stated a couple of times, I am an engineer by training. I have a pretty good foundation (no pun intended) in geotechnical engineering. One of the members here had mentioned a number of pages back that the Fordow complex is at a depth ranging from 80M-100M with the concrete thickness of the structures being 10M.

Let's assume that is accurate. It may not be. Actual depths likely classified. Anyways, solid granite. And an untested weapon, at least to the best of my knowledge, to be applied against a target site with those parameters? Even with the best of computer simulations, this will be a tough nut to crack. This won't be like TG2 and dropping a bomb down an air shaft. Even multiple impacts may not be enough.
Estimations is that is even deeper below 600-900 meters reinforced with breathing concrete whatever it means instead non breathing, i am no expert in area but how can you plan serious military mission without decisive and correct data just for the political sake of mission, i always thoutgh of american high end state decision makers as cool headed, rationale and calculated subjects but in last decade and more they try everything possible to prove me wrong.
 
Well, there it is.......let there be no doubt what the plan is, the only job the Artesh and IRGC have is how to throw as many wrenches in this plan as possible to make victory as expensive as it can get........
Get the mines ready for the Strait....don't wait
Get the uranium out in small batches and take them to secret locations
Get drones or a missile battery and hide it well, for the B2!
If Iran shoots down a B-2 bomber I'd jump in joy and excitement! At very short ranges its stealth diminishes and can be targeted easily. B-2s are only scary when carrying smart standoff weapons but not close-in MoP bombs which must be dropped straight downwards, exposing the B-2 to AD fire.
 

American and United airlines suspend flights to Middle East amid Israel-Iran hostilities​


American Airlines and United Airlines have halted some flights to the Middle East as Israel and Iran continue to exchange retaliatory strikes.

American Airlines told Fox News Digital that the carrier has temporarily suspended flights between Doha, Qatar and Philadelphia? through Sunday.
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Me right now... Can't lie.
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Hi,

Humans will be moved away---machines will take their place---like frigates, cruisers, subs, aircraft carriers---
Yes of course but do you think if and I mean if America bombs Iran will they have those naval assets until they are 100 percent certain Iranian anti ship cruise and ballistic missiles are not a threat to American ships people still haven’t done that to the Houthi and Iran everyone thinks would be easier to do what they couldn’t do to Houthis in 2 years
 

but but but.......but ....everyone is helping them ....... Syria, Jordon providing full air launching facility, near by countries also helping them,,providing them airbase ......and Alone Iran ....
Natanyahu need come out in the open ....
 
Estimations is that is even deeper below 600-900 meters reinforced with breathing concrete whatever it means instead non breathing, i am no expert in area but how can you plan serious military mission without decisive and correct data just for the political sake of mission, i always thoutgh of american high end state decision makers as cool headed, rationale and calculated subjects but in last decade and more they try everything possible to prove me wrong.
If down that deep........yeah, I don't want to try to contemplate that.
 
but but but.......but ....everyone is helping them ....... Syria, Jordon providing full air launching facility, near by countries also helping them,,providing them airbase ......and Alone Iran ....
Case building 101.
 
Hi,

Humans will be moved away---machines will take their place---like frigates, cruisers, subs, aircraft carriers---.

Why did Iran not start with the hypersonic missiles from the start---???

That is a head scratcher---.
Seriously cheexh and Chong 🤦 lol
 

Israel strikes unfinished Arak heavy water reactor in Iran​


David Gritten
BBC News

Maxar Technologies/Handout via Reuters Satellite image from Maxar Technologies shows the damaged roof of the Arak heavy water reactor following an Israeli air strike, in Iran (19 June 2025)
Maxar Technologies/Handout via Reuters

Satellite imagery showed a large hole in the Arak reactor building's domed roof

Israeli jets have bombed a nuclear reactor under construction in central Iran during a wave of air strikes on the seventh day of the conflict between the two countries.

The Israeli military said it targeted the Arak heavy water reactor's core seal to stop it being used for "nuclear weapons development".

The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed the reactor was hit and that it contained no nuclear material.

Spent fuel from heavy water reactors contains plutonium suitable for a nuclear bomb.

Iran - which says its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful - agreed under a 2015 deal with world powers to redesign and rebuild Arak so it could not produce weapons-grade plutonium.
 
In the wild world, there is no case,,,,might is right...... new problem arise in US...people and top military officialsare asking ...how long we fight for Israel
No sir, American's have pushed back hard. I have been lurking on some right wing US forums - America first types - the general consensus is "Ain't our war". This is all case building wait and see "victim card is next".
 

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