Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Gripen9]

 

[Aggregate]

Wait What the Hell .. Is Israel kind of attacking Azerbaijan now (given that's Iranian Troops "Inside" Azerbaijan) ?

 

[mangekyo]

 

[Persian Gulf]

Wait What the Hell .. Is Israel Attacking Azerbaijan now ?

east and west Azerbaijan are two provinces in Iran

 

[arsalan345]

That's exactly what I have been saying. Its impossible that Israel will sit peacefully once Iran's threat is over. They have ZERO tolerance against even a slightest threat. Nukes in the hand of islamic nation are simply unacceptable to Israel. They will use their entire focus, technology, resources, everything to destabilize Pak enough, so that pak can be strangled to give up its nukes by itself. Mosaad & RAW had been collaborating in past too but it was just that Mosaad was preoccupied in dealing with Iran. So we can imagine, what they will do once they are free from that project. Israel & India's military partnerships are already in front of us. Israeli weapons / drones were used by india in last conflict. Israel was the one which helped specifically India technically in Kargil war too. It went out of the way to help configure special weapons on Mirage 2000s to kill Pak soldiers. Now we got the chance to pay back and we have to understand that our long term survival and stability is linked with Iran's survival and stability.

As i said, Iran acts as a shield. If shield falls, we will be vulnerable. Lack of airbases, assets towards Iran border put us under extreme risk. They are scrambling frtom karachi and going towards Iranian border. You know what's going on behind the scenes! We all know it. We can't make more airbases overnight but we can establish air superiority. Threat of Israel and India is a big big threat. The way Israel executes plan is perfect. Look at all the assasinations of top commanders of Iran! It's eye opener.

arabs can't even defend themselves that's why they are in fear and are silent. We doesn't fear anyone except God. Our nuclear weapons and strategic positions will be compromised if Iran falls. If we attack Israeli jets and destroy some of them then i am sure United states will come after us. Thing is United states is under Israeli control because of jewish influence in the pentagon and white house.

I think it's better to join axis now. I love allies but we have no option now. Israel can easily attack our nuclear storage facilities from Iranian airspace. This is unacceptable.

 

[BigMela2onin]

One would hope so

 

[Davey Crockett]

WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS COMING IN IRAN

The initial battle plan for a new war

seymourhersh.substack.com

 

[Aggregate]

east and west Azerbaijan are two provinces in Iran

Ohh .. sorry, given the update text, I thought this was the country of Azerbaijan. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Liquidator]

Please go back
It was promised to you by your estate agent lord was it not?

Gents.....Hasten the days sandal wearing talibunnies roam the streets of tel aviv.



Anyway....a quiet night. Is Iran letting Israel sleep today? You are too generous saar.

 

[Homajon]

Have the Iranians on this forum finally stopped being such pathetic feminine cry babies?! Is finally everything ok? Or will you again get menstruation if Iran doesn't start an attack for 2 days????

 

[Tijani]

I would respectfully disagree, if you are a scholar of Military history you would know that some of the greatest generals in Military history were known for their hot bloodedness and impulsive decision making - names like Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Hannibal and even Sherman.

Let's agree to disagree on this one. I prefer the Iranian and Chinese way of military strategy where cool heads and calm hearts are more valued impulsive behaviour. My preference differs from yours.

The only thing that is cold and calculating is my casio calculator.

Then you have a great calculator. Don't use it to gamble. Gambling invokes sickness of soul. I do not gamble. Must be my cold and calculating nature in play.

That seems very much like a you problem. Perhaps you need to temper your expectations or respect the fact that the forum is not going to be an echo chamber that necessarily reflects your opinion or aligns with your values (this is known as confirmation bias).

Oh it's so a me problem! Without a doubt. I do not desire any echo chamber but expectations is why I joined a military forum and not a talk shop. It seems I was wrong to expect more from a military forum and that's on me because it's another me isuue.

With respect what qualifies a fool - what test is used to measure this, how do we quantify it?

You might disagree with me but if you choose to inject your opinion into a discussion without being informed on he matter or being knowledgeable on the issue and only spew your feelings then I would define that as foolish. But to each his own. Please check for the reference the TCN interview with M. Rubio

Some of the greatest people in history were opportunists.

Great maybe to you. Seems like that's a you issue. We apparently don't share the shame fundamental values on that one. I'm a man of faith and conviction and being a two faces opportunist doesn't rhyme well with my core beliefs. You welcome to keep yours. To each his own.

Again this seems to be very much a "you" problem, you should work on tempering your expectations. Or being open to accepting people will say things that you will just disagree with, and rather than constantly challenge them and try to force people to accept your point of view, learn to accept people are unique and different. (you will never force people to accept your view unless they wish to do so.).

I disagree with many but certain things are not disagreements. If you don't know, say what the capital of Iran is and the population size then that's foolishness. If you argue with me concerning Iran's military capabilities based on you illinformed personal wishes then that's foolish.

Must take one to know one right?

Always! Since everyone has one I know for a fact that some will be bigger than others. I'm assuming you know yours as well anyone else's.

Anyway you seem frustrated with the information on the forum, if the forum is not to your liking, you know where the door is, no one is forcing you to remain here and read as you put it 99% "ill-informed" fools.

Not the least frustrated. As I've stated. Disappointed because I joined a military forum hoping for a healthy exchange of opinions, knowledge and informed argumentation. I repeat. It's a me problem that you chose to address and now it's a you problem.
Now you're just being less than nice to me. It seems you took the 99.9% personal? Don't! If you know you know. If not then it is what it is. I remain to serve a purpose. People's foolishness doesn't change that.

Thanks for your time.

Thank you

 

[Xerxes22]

Why hasn't there been an attack tonight?

 

[RescueRanger]

Let's agree to disagree on this one. I prefer the Iranian and Chinese way of military strategy where cool heads and calm hearts are more valued impulsive behaviour. My preference differs from yours.

Then you have a great calculator. Don't use it to gamble. Gambling invokes sickness of soul. I do not gamble. Must be my cold and calculating nature in play.

Oh it's so a me problem! Without a doubt. I do not desire any echo chamber but expectations is why I joined a military forum and not a talk shop. It seems I was wrong to expect more from a military forum and that's on me because it's another me isuue.

You might disagree with me but if you choose to inject your opinion into a discussion without being informed on he matter or being knowledgeable on the issue and only spew your feelings then I would define that as foolish. But to each his own. Please check for the reference the TCN interview with M. Rubio

Great maybe to you. Seems like that's a you issue. We apparently don't share the shame fundamental values on that one. I'm a man of faith and conviction and being a two faces opportunist doesn't rhyme well with my core beliefs. You welcome to keep yours. To each his own.

I disagree with many but certain things are not disagreements. If you don't know, say what the capital of Iran is and the population size then that's foolishness. If you argue with me concerning Iran's military capabilities based on you illinformed personal wishes then that's foolish.

Always! Since everyone has one I know for a fact that some will be bigger than others. I'm assuming you know yours as well anyone else's.

Not the least frustrated. As I've stated. Disappointed because I joined a military forum hoping for a healthy exchange of opinions, knowledge and informed argumentation. I repeat. It's a me problem that you chose to address and now it's a you problem.
Now you're just being less than nice to me. It seems you took the 99.9% personal? Don't! If you know you know. If not then it is what it is. I remain to serve a purpose. People's foolishness doesn't change that.

Thank you

But again. My point remains, if you still see the people in this forum being comprised of 99% "ill-informed" fools you know where the door is. No one is forcing you to stay.

 

[Tijani]

did I say Iran is asking for help? I was replying to someone that said that the Chinese navy ship is in the Persian Gulf to help Iran.

No you did not say it but your assumption states:
"guess is it's there to observe and collect data and not to help Iran."
You insinuated that it's not there to help and answered accordingly. Maybe you should reread your own post again so that you m see how semantics work?

 

[dicknharry]

Didn't they already release the Epstein files? Regardless a lot of people know what US policticians and celebrities have done in the past and it tends to be forgotten until it becomes a headline again. Even if they were released they could be suppressed by US media

Its and example. It could be other sensitive content that could be extremely damaging and one that Israel may be using to lure Trump. What if Iran showed the very same if Trump does attack?

Perhaps that is why Trump could be giving a pause and hoping that in two weeks Iran is able to deplete and cause significant damage to Israel so that they broker peace on their own. Afterall, Netanyahu is not liked by Trump since he is uncontrollable and Trump does not like what he cant control.