Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Why should they sit to negotiate? And negotiate what? Surrender?

Its due time someone made these pathetic bullies payback in the same coin. As far as regional "peace" is concerned, its only a matter of time thay ziopigs chose another target to destroy.

Look at the past 50 years and see how many "paece" agreements were made by ziopigs and how many did they honor.

The problem with muslim nations isnt about lack of firepower, but rather will to use it, and that has embolded the ziopigs to the extent that they now operate across multiple countries without any fear.
Understand your concerns.

There are several ways to tackle this. Least of which is to take the US and NATO head on. The Zionazis would want exactly that.
 
people in Pakistan will remember it. Pakistan is not next, it is going to be targeted very soon. the influential groups and former members of Israeli establishment have already expressed desire on dismantling Pakistani nuclear capability. just like Iran they want a fully compliant government that is miles away from China and Russia and a country reduced to a shadow of former self.

Peope who are saying Pakistan isnt on the target list of isreal are naive,imo.
Whatever happened in Iran was exactly what indians tried to do on 7th may, but i did not work.

Unfortunately the state has used and abused the term "traitor" so now even if somebody is actually one, we simlply dont believe them.
The world order and rules have once again changed, so we need to change our strategic thinking as well.
The strategy of waiting for an enemy attack is pure stupidity, premptive strikes are the new norm.
Active sabtage, economic espionage and proxy funding are the new defence weapons.
I dont want to name anyone specifically, but our leadership for the past 30 years have been so impressed by "aman ki asha" that we now lose 1k+ men every year despite being at "peace".
From my perpective Pakistan's offensive capacity in the above mentioned areas are looking pathetically non-existent.
I hope our decision makers know what they're doing.
 
No Iranian threat ‘other than having US regional interests challenged’
Stephen Zunes, the director of Middle Eastern studies at the University of San Francisco, says the suggestion that Iran posed any kind of threat to the US is “totally nonsense”.

“Iran has no capabilities of reaching the United States with its missiles or other kinds of weaponry,” he told Al Jazeera.

“And if the concern was about their nuclear programme eventually being militarised to make nuclear weapons, Trump would not have destroyed” the 2015 nuclear deal, Zunes added.

He argued the attacks were not about any kind of Iranian threats “other than that threat of having a major power that could challenge US interests in the region”.

Asked about why he thought Trump decided to attack Iran now, Zunes replied: “I have a feeling he’s been wanting to launch war on Iran for some time, frankly”.

He added that this was “obviously” contrary to what Trump had campaigned on but added that “it should not be that big of a surprise” because the Republican president “has broken any number of campaign promises” on both foreign and domestic issues”.
 
It is China's greatest goodwill to human civilization to stay out of the war. To be honest, most people don't know enough about China's massive war capability. If China starts a general mobilization, then it should be aliens trying to invade the earth.

China has provided the supervision to Iran how to rely on rocket missile force if you lack the power to build up a powerful air force/navy.

Iran's underground missile tunnel was also a reference to China's underground great wall that has effectively shielded its missile power that the enemy cannot neutralize it.

Otherwise, Iran cannot deal a such amount of damage to Israel during this war.
 
This is not the first time India has backstabbed Iran

However Iran has some sort of one sided love for India, kind of the way American Christians have one sided love for Israel.

I can't understand it. I won't try. But it exists and we have to acknowledge it and deal with it accordingly.
How exactly india backstabbed iran ?
Do we have any defence pact which we refuse not Honour ?
Any defence supply deal not fulfilled by us ?
Did our govt nominated someone for something ?
 
AI:

🔹 Verdict:

Iran’s version (entrance/exit damaged) is more likely, based on:
  • Physics of bunker-busting
  • Fordow’s geological protection
  • Known limits of GBU-57
  • Lack of reported massive seismic activity or radioactive concern
  • Fordow being designed specifically to survive this kind of strike
Unless:
  • The U.S. used a new, classified weapon, or
  • There was sabotage from within, or
  • The strike was theatrical and the “destruction” is more symbolic than physical.

What is the actual depth of Fordow, does anybody know?
 
We might have surpassed the US in both firepower and the state of the art technology, but we should not be complacent as our soldiers still have not been blooded.

At least Iran still has the gut to fight back and it has effectively crippled Israel, and will deliver more heavy blows to the US.

That's why our Chinese compatriots sometimes shouldn't go too harsh with Iran.

I was also harsh to Iran months ago due to the fact that I was pissed by Iran's behavior after President Raisi's death.

However, Iran's action since last week still has regained my respect.

Iran has greatly weakened the US image in the ME, and Israel is crippled.

The damage on Fordow nuclear facility isn't as bad as we thought.

Iran is not pretending to keep an eye closed, but will respond to the US with appropriate measure.
Obviously, most Chinese support Iran's counteroffensive. When you see the news posted on the microblog of the Iranian Embassy in China, most Chinese people are scolding Israel and supporting Iran's counterattack. As the spokesman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said, the Chinese people believe that only by defeating the enemy on the battlefield and letting the other side take the initiative to negotiate with you can they be qualified to pursue peace.
 

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