Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[koolio]

 

[Musings]

Bastard bombs the shit out of them and then asks for peace in the same sentence? What a complete twat

 

[Aggregate]

A possible scenario: Iran will not attack US bases in the Middle East, instead it will keep pounding Israel hard unless US goes after military targets in Iran.

That's precisely what Iran needs to do. US does not care about the lives of US soldiers or their own assets. Hitting them would not make any difference to the US. Its deaths of Israelis that hurts the US,. Also, focusing firepower on US will mean that Israel will start getting less love form Iranian missiles. Which will be very unfortunate.

 

[MH.Yang]

China has provided the supervision to Iran how to rely on rocket missile force if you lack the power to build up a powerful air force/navy.

Iran's underground missile tunnel was also a reference to China's underground great wall that has effectively shielded its missile power that the enemy cannot neutralize it.

Otherwise, Iran cannot deal a such amount of damage to Israel during this war.

Iran's steel production is 30 million tons per year, the 10th largest steel producer in the world, and cement production is 100 million tons per year, the top 10 in the world. Automobile production has a capacity of 1.5 million units per year and even has 79% mobile internet coverage. Iran is also the only country in the Middle East with a complete industrial system, covering petrochemicals, military industry, automotive, machinery, electronics, pharmaceuticals and other fields, especially in the field of heavy industry and military industry is outstanding.

We never questioned Iran's ability to defeat Israel and the United States, we questioned Iran's determination. It is a country full of spies and capitulationists.

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

 

[Davey Crockett]

Cant believe americans. Lets make that clear they always do opposite tow hat they say.

Please differentiate between Americans and the Zionists who have hijacked our government.

It will be a mistake to demonize average Americans who are mostly not in favor of Trump getting us into another war.

The mood in America today is far different than it was when the first Gulf War was announced.

 

[MootPoint]

I cannot express in words how much i am enraged and embarrassed what Pakistan has done. Granted that beggars cannot be choosers but how in the hell someone decided to even put a word out that pakistan will back Nobel for donny the zio glazer when IWT remains suspended and now we knew what US was upto vis a vis Iran.

Trump is a pretty insecure guy and stroking his ego was a ploy to de-escalate and buy some time for the Iranians (and also to force Modi to contradict Trump by denying the US played a role in the India-Pak ceasefire). But it was always going to be a long shot. Obviously nobody believes this man-child actually deserves a Nobel but I don't think it's fair to criticize Pak for trying a valid tactic that might have paid off.

After the meeting with Munir, Trump said Pakistan is not happy with what's going on and understands Iran better than most. Furthermore, Trump's own MAGA base was strongly voicing its opposition to US involvement. Then there was also a statement by the White House that Trump was giving 2 weeks for a diplomatic solution. For a while it seemed the anti war pressure was mounting.

Even Professor John Mearsheimer who is a respected authority said in an interview that Trump seemed to have toned down his rhetoric in the last 48 hours and would be foolish to go to war. However he also added the Israeli lobby is extremely aggressive and will be putting massive pressure. And that is what happened in the end.

AIPAC has invested billions of dollars over decades leading up to this moment, and they must have pulled out all the stops. Maybe the speculation about the Epstein files is also true. Professor Mearsheimer said that there can never be an honest and logical debate on Israel in Congress, because the outcome of that would almost certainly be against Israeli interests. That's why they pre-empt the normal decision making process through blackmail and pressure tactics.

 

[Master Chief]

My point was that boycotting Israel or India will indiscriminately hurt Muslims residing in those countries. It would amount to capital punishment which is gross injustice.

Won't the same action indiscriminately hurt everyone, regardless of religious affiliation?

Your point is unclear. Are you complaining over muslims being targeted or of the indiscriminate nature of economic warfare?

There are non-muslims in Pakistan, whose responsibility for protection lies with Pakistan. There are muslims in India who are hostile to the Pakistani state.

The conflict is between nation states, not religious groups or sects.

 

[Cryptonian]

Many Americans are apologising in the replies

 

[TallGuy]

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

My Dear friend, What does the courage look like? in last 10 days, Irani Nation and it armed forces are showing courage! determination!

Honestly after the surprise attack and the fifth coloum activation, i do not remmeber any country or armed forces would have survived. yet they did stood up and still fighting.

Many countries will not!

I am a Pakistani but i admire the courage they are showing against the odds! actually make me proud. out 50+ islamic countries only one that has the balls to fight the Entity and US.

Opinion given at higher ground - you are Chinese! our brother Strong and powerful.

I see Only Courage and determination By Iranis. Period!

 

[Psyko70]

Please differentiate between Americans and the Zionists who have hijacked our government.

It will be a mistake to demonize average Americans who are mostly not in favor of Trump getting us into another war.

The mood in America today is far different than it was when the first Gulf War was announced.

Dude your country is equally accomplice. Iraq, afghanistan not everywhere zionist was blacmailing you. Are your all govts hijacked ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Iran's steel production is 30 million tons per year, the 10th largest steel producer in the world, and cement production is 100 million tons per year, the top 10 in the world. Automobile production has a capacity of 1.5 million units per year and even has 79% mobile internet coverage. Iran is also the only country in the Middle East with a complete industrial system, covering petrochemicals, military industry, automotive, machinery, electronics, pharmaceuticals and other fields, especially in the field of heavy industry and military industry is outstanding.

We never questioned Iran's ability to defeat Israel and the United States, we questioned Iran's determination. It is a country full of spies and capitulationists.

As long as Iran can show the courage to fight to the end, there will soon be a large number of countries willing to aid it. Trump will also be too intimidated to enter the fray. The problem is that what Iran lacks most is courage.

We will see, at least they try and is not giving up now.

Shouldn't go too harsh with them, especially we are in a non-Chinese forum.

 

[Master Chief]

IRGCAF seems extra angry over Israel.

Lol Trump did the strikes, Israel did not. These guys seem confused.

You know as well as I do that Israel is a proxy state/colonial outpost of USA. Iran is correct to focus on Israel.

 

[Aggregate]

My Dear friend, What does the courage look like? in last 10 days, Irani Nation and it armed forces are showing courage! determination!

Honestly after the surprise attack and the fifth coloum activation, i do not remmeber any country or armed forces would have survived. yet they did stood up and still fighting.

Many countries will not!

I am a Pakistani but i admire the courage they are showing against the odds! actually make me proud. out 50+ islamic countries only one that has the balls to fight the Entity and US.

Opinion given at higher ground - you are Chinese! our brother Strong and powerful.

I see Only Courage and determination By Iranis. Period!

I agree, any other country would have broken down onto their feet after 1 year of sanctions, let alone 30+ years that Iran endured, along with 8 years of Iraqi war on Iran (also sponsored by US/Israel) and now this war.

Even after US B2 Attacks and threats, Iran is again attacking Israel, that is defended by a 32 country NATO alliance, as well as 12 hostile regional countries along with the US. No other country would have shown such determination.

 

[Sipahsalar]

Yes they will do it because Iran stood around and quietly watched when they were getting bombed.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

My Dear friend, What does the courage look like? in last 10 days, Irani Nation and it armed forces are showing courage! determination!

Honestly after the surprise attack and the fifth coloum activation, i do not remmeber any country or armed forces would have survived. yet they did stood up and still fighting.

Many countries will not!

I am a Pakistani but i admire the courage they are showing against the odds! actually make me proud. out 50+ islamic countries only one that has the balls to fight the Entity and US.

Opinion given at higher ground - you are Chinese! our brother Strong and powerful.

I see Only Courage and determination By Iranis. Period!

I just figure out China's real attitude toward Iran.

Even Iran wants to fight for a true negotiation with the west is acceptable, because at least it gonna set up a good example for other countries that the US can no longer bully around with impunity.

At least China isn't the US, and it is not forcing other nations to become an expendable pawn for its battle of hegemony.