Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

My theory is that US did this small symbolic attack to get neocons and Mossad off his back. He is indirectly giving Iran a greenlight to have at it with Israel. The rest is up to IRI. Will they fight, or chicken out?
The US has stationed its carriers in the Gulf. They are here to fight. So, if Iran keeps attacking Israel, then the US will create another excuse to continue attacking Iran.

The real lessons lie in Trump's speech. He has alienated everyone in ME and just praised Israel. There was a threat of Harmuz enclosure, but the US didn't care about the oil supply from its allies (UAE, KSA, etc) to China, India and the EU. Therefore, the US can undermine the world's peace and its partners' interests for Israel.
 
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The short story is that the US claims they destroyed everything, mission complete. Time for peace now. Iran claims only the entrance and exit was damaged.

So far we have launched a small missile barrage at Israel. Nothing serious though.
I'm trusting Iran on this one, i really doubt they managed to completely penetrate and destroy everything

They likely damaged the entrances

Also no matter what happened, Trump would have immediately called it a "total victory massive success"
 
Netanyahu has named Pakistan. This isn't paranoia. Israel feels insecure if just one Islamic country possesses nuclear weapons. Too bad for Israel. We have them and of course we will do everything to keep them. Especially after witnessing the Iran conflict.

It’s important to take your enemies words seriously.
 
Iran needs to capitulate now. Live to fight another day. It is clearly no match for the Israeli and American militaries. Apart from its proxies, it has no military support from any other nation. The Iranians are capable of building powerful armed forces. Focus on their airforce and air defense capabilities which are clearly lacking. Chasing after nuclear enrichment is like a dog chasing after its tail. No leader has the guts to launch any nukes during times of conflict. Its simply a waste of time. Many members here are cheering Iran on to fight to the end. I doubt that the majority of the Iranian civilians feel the same way watching their country being routinely bombed and knowing that they lack any formidable air defense to stop those attacks.
 
Six US B-2A Spirit strategic bombers struck Iranian nuclear facilities in Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan. The strike used 12 GBU-57A/B bunker buster bombs. Thirty BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles launched from submarines at a range of 600 km were also used. It is worth noting that Iran's nuclear facilities are located underground, at a depth of up to 90 meters, and it is quite difficult to destroy them. According to Iranian media, the facilities were not damaged. The GBU-57A/B bunker buster bomb was developed in the United States and weighs over 13.5 tons, is 6 meters long, and has a diameter of about 80 centimeters. The bomb contains almost 2.5 tons of explosives and is designed to destroy underground targets at a depth of up to 60 meters.

 
Iran needs to capitulate now. Live to fight another day. It is clearly no match for the Israeli and American militaries. Apart from its proxies, it has no military support from any other nation. The Iranians are capable of building powerful armed forces. Focus on their airforce and air defense capabilities which are clearly lacking. Chasing after nuclear enrichment is like a dog chasing after its tail. No leader has the guts to launch any nukes during times of conflict. Its simply a waste of time. Many members here are cheering Iran on to fight to the end. I doubt that the majority of the Iranian civilians feel the same way watching their country being routinely bombed and knowing that they lack any formidable air defense to stop those attacks.
And risk becoming another Libya or Syria? There will be full civil war, every single jihadist terrorist from all over the world is itching to fight the «majus» And like with Syria, Turkey will gladly help them cross the border from the west, Afghanistan and Pakistan from east, even Iraq. Were doomed.
 
Many Americans are apologising in the replies😲

I really hope that the iRGC does some commando type attack and capture some American troops , destroying their bases

if the GCC countries wants to show any fellowship with Iran than they should cancel energy supplies to the western countries and also cancel the recent purchase of military equipment which goes in trillions of $$$.
 
It's all a facade. People cannot play pretend all their lives.

Everyone knows religion is the prime motivating factor in both Indian and the entitys actions. We are talking about two nations whose lives are dictated by religion on matters of bodily functions and perceived form of justice, yet we want to sell the idea that their national psyche would be devoid of religious reasoning.
That's not the point I made and you know it.

Yes, religion plays a role in the identity of nation states. That is not the matter I was responding to.

I said, it doesn't matter in "moral terms" if some Muslims loyal to India are targeted by Pakistan; and why should it anyway?

Our military fights so that Pakistani hindus are protected from the water terrorism of Indian muslims. There should be no moral quandary here for Pakistanis.
 
Iran needs to show israel and usa that its balls are made of tungston
 
No need for nukes.

In case of a US attack;

- Turkey must declare that they will close the Straits of the Bosporus.
- Egypt should declare that they close the Suez Canal.
- Iran should declare that they close the Street of Hormuz.

That means halting of 80% of international trade.

The US wont lift a finger.
 

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