Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Musings]

Then leave alone our allies on every part of the world.

You dont have friggin allies. You blackmail - you steal - you overthrow legitimate governments and generally go around fukcing up every part of the world.
Contrary to belief - you are despised everywhere you exist - apart from India -
Donut twamp indiaaaa gwaate fwend.

 

[Falcon29]

when is Iran attacking Dimona ? whats stopping them ?

That is something they need to do if they want to shorten this conflict. Israeli's and US so far are willing to pay the current cost to continue with their regime change aspirations in Iran.

 

[R2D2]

No. The right answer is to put a strategic cost to this action, and that is to fully withdraw from the NPT. It serves no value at all now.

Then leave alone our allies on every part of the world.

They are not allies. America is a servant of Israel.

 

[Aggregate]

No it hasn't .. Iran has not responded to the strikes and unlikely to do so in such a big way either.

Pages upon pages of unverified Twitter posts today all over the place Everyone is just posting anything they come across on Twitter, no verifications, no questions asked. Half of us have spent the day debunking twitter posts alone.

 

[hussain0216]

While Iran is larger, wars of attrition aren't won by size alone—they’re won by efficiency, technology, and critical vulnerabilities. Israel has far superior intelligence, cyber, and air capabilities, and Iran’s economy is fragile and heavily dependent on exposed oil infrastructure. A few precision strikes on key targets can cause Iran disproportionate damage. Without meaningful support from Russia or China, Iran cannot match Israel and the U.S. over time—even in a drawn-out conflict.

Your not listening Israel is far far smaller, in a war of attrition,.a small state will almost always lose

If Iran hit Israeli infrastructure, desalination plants, energy Infrastructure

It takes a lot less strikes to hurt Israel, whilst in Iran you have to do multiple strikes in multiple regions to effect Iran

 

[BigMela2onin]

Iran will need to achieve something very effective to get US/Israel to drop their regime change quest

US/Israel believe the more they bomb Iran the more pressured the IR will be under to change it's policies and make concessions

Very logical of them. They have called every Iranian bluff and continue to do so.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Iran will need to achieve something very effective to get US/Israel to drop their regime change quest

US/Israel believe the more they bomb Iran the more pressured the IR will be under to change it's policies and make concessions

The cost for them right isn't high enough to make them back off regime change aspirations. That's why Israel continues to strike Iran to try make this drag out and make Iran feel it will be under a permanent assault until it's policies are changed.

Once the cost is high enough, they will go back to negotiating nuclear deal only, and potentially discard zero enrichment demand.

yup... right, IR missiles are now looking like artillery shells, destroying empty house!

should do proper infrast. damage, from ground up in 2 to 3 days (ASAP)

 

[OldTwilight]

Where is Khamenei ?!
They just give country in hand of Pezeshkian , it's not good sign ...

 

[gambit]

They are not allies. America is a servant of Israel.

Fine. Then leave our 'master' alone.

 

[Cicero]

 

[chinesedragon912]

Iran must go nuclear

 

[FuturePAF]

Then stop bombing and shitting on every part of the world.
You elect a man that can only be making the decisions he is because someone knows or has something on him telling us you dont care?
What makes you the official spokesperson of the US? Were you on Epstien island too?

Asking doesn’t matter. @gambit is right, the US didn’t care. And why should it. It is enjoying the fruits of its labor. It builds the world to its will after WW2. Patrols the world’s oceans. Ensures free trade and funded the green revolution of the 1960s.

If other nations don’t like what the US has done, they have to accept the world is currently what it is and work hard to build up their countries to shape the world of tomorrow. Be a part of human advancement. Look at what China has done since 1978. It shifted from Mao’s revolutionary mindset to a pragmatic, bind your time and hide your strength approach.

P.s. look at Europe and the UK nowadays. As president Trump himself said they were irrelevant. Gone are the days of the Sun never setting the British empire and deference to Britain and Europe.

Now is the season of playing it smart, consolidating internal stability, reconciliation with patriots of all poltical backgrounds, maximizing FDI, and building up capacities to be a niche in a global order where you can hold your space, so you are not crushed by larger powers.

 

[Bharatah]

THANKS TO TRUMP AND ZIONIST ELITE :

Senior Fellow at the Quincy Institute:

After the attack on Fordow, it is highly likely that Iran will withdraw from the NPT and then there will be no eyes and ears to monitor Iran's nuclear program/Today, many countries in the world are looking at this situation and saying that it is a good idea for us to have a nuclear deterrent too...

Iranian Revolutionary Guards Cyber Corps

Some people still fail to understand that these attacks on Iran give the country the legal right to withdraw from the NPT under international law—and a full UN embargo could not be applied, only bilateral sanctions (which already exist). See what Article X (10) of the NPT states:



This is a fundamentally different situation from North Korea's case in 2003, which withdrew from the NPT without having been attacked – meaning Article X could not be legitimately invoked at that time.

 

[lightning f57]

When Iranian ground control intercept (GCI) radars failed to discriminate our F-22s sneaking up on Iranian F-4s, that was a demo that apparently most of the world dismissed.

We have heard, for years in this little corner of the internet, about the 'Craptor' and how 'fat' is the F-35 and Ukrainian Kochulga and now Chinese quantum radar. Put up or shut up.

Israeli's have been flying uncontested for over a week over those sites, F22's escorting the B2's is an overkill, more like show ponies. Irans air defence was taken out before the fight even started.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Ok, so for those stating that granite is a lot denser than reinforced concrete; I am not going to delve into a lesson in structural engineering (I only took the classes I had to take).

Anyway, depending on the chemical makeup of the granite at Fordow, the unit weight can vary from anywhere between 165-180PCF.

5000PSI concrete, which is common in certain structures, has an average unit weight of 150PCF. Even 6000PSI concrete has a unit weight of 150PCF. The unit weight and compressive strength can be increased a substantial amount through the introduction of silica fume and super-plasticizers which in turns reduces the number of voids in the concrete once cured. You might see nuclear containment vessels using this. Add all that along with the proper reinforcement, and the properties are very close to that of the granite.

Now, I'm sure the mission planners took all that into account when putting the package together.

That said, I'm not surprised there are no "massive bomb craters" at the surface. Also, remember a couple of my earlier posts: when it comes to precision strikes, we're the ones you want to call. We're pretty good at dropping a bomb down an air shaft. Nobody does it better.

If that's what happened at Fordow..................