Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Musings]

Not bombing Dimona still has coward Khamenei written all over it. Why the hell hasn't it been? There is no logical explanation. He is costing us massively. Shameful.

The only nation to stand up and actually do something and you resort to suggesting they are the cowards? Forget to mention the inactivity of the rest of the Muslamic world? Stop being selective.

 

[BigMela2onin]

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I can already guess the answer

 

[R2D2]

And nuke what?

Iran will not drop a nuke on the Arab countries or Israel (Islam's holy sites).

Nukes may come in small sizes as well.

 

[koolio]

Sadly Tehran has been hit really hard by Israel.

Yes it's very unfortunate it seems thier AD is severely lacking, or taken our by Israeli airstrikes, I will keep on saying this again and again without a robust and strong air force you will turn into a meat grinder, thank goodness Pakistan has a decent air force, now with J35 coming very soon, enemy will have to think multiple times before attacking.

 

[Xiaolong]

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[F.O.X]

Its not that simple, accepting ceasefire means Israel gets to take a break, restock ADs and prepare for another attack. US and its Euro slaves will pay Israel for all damages, while Iran licks it wounds, Israel and the US will come back and attack as they will. The goal is regime change or total collapse leading into civil war

That’s a valid concern, and I understand the skepticism, but it’s important to weigh the costs and sustainability of perpetual conflict. Yes, Israel will likely restock and regroup during a ceasefire(USA will do it either ways), but so will Iran and more importantly, it will do so without bleeding itself dry in an unwinnable war of attrition.

Iran's long-term strength doesn't come from staying in a grinding conflict until collapse; it comes from surviving, adapting, and rebuilding strategically. Right now, Iran is absorbing massive economic pressure, losing strategic assets, and risking further destabilization, all of which can weaken internal cohesion. Accepting a mediated ceasefire isn’t surrender, it’s a calculated pause. It gives Iran space to address sanctions, stabilize the economy, rebuild its arsenal, and reorient diplomatically, perhaps even deepen asymmetric capabilities quietly.

Dragging this out only helps those hoping for regime collapse, not those trying to prevent it. Israel and its allies may rearm that’s a given. But Iran can also use that time to recalibrate its posture, reinforce proxies, improve technology, and come back stronger. True strategic resilience lies in knowing when to escalate and when to consolidate.

 

[mangekyo]

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Do they not watch x? We already heard Putin say he has to support Israel because it’s basically a Russian speaking country

 

[TallGuy]

Not bombing Dimona still has coward Khamenei written all over it. Why the hell hasn't it been? There is no logical explanation. He is costing us massively. Shameful.

Dimona = Bushehr

both active - its like a exploding dirty nuclear bomb Iran would not attack Dimona nuclear fall out/Radio activity will kill all Gazans.

If they bombed Bushehr Oil rich region becomes unhabitable.

So no body will attack a running nuclear plant.

 

[ahtan_china]

Iranians' awareness is worthy of their suffering.

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[Liquidator]

Not bombing Dimona still has coward Khamenei written all over it. Why the hell hasn't it been? There is no logical explanation. He is costing us massively. Shameful.

Stop being emotional.

- the bombing of any nuclear facility is indeed reckless.

However, not all facilities are the same. The reactors have been left unharmed (for now). Iran will have to be careful on how it chooses to escalate.

My assessment is that they will not target Iranian reactors until they are sure Iran cannot respond in kind.

On a side note, opportunity for deescalation is gone. Those that are asking Iran to back off don't know israel. Israel will not stop now.

 

[hussain0216]

With air superiority secured, Israeli jets now fly freely over Tehran.
Even if Tehran becomes like Beirut, will the Ayatollahs' will to fight remain unbroken? I doubt it.
To force Iran's surrender quickly, Netanyahu will likely escalate indiscriminate bombing of major cities in the coming days.

The Israelis are ready for a ceasefire

Whilst irans nuclear assets are not completely destroyed and we don't know what's hidden, the Israeli/U.S feel Iranian nuclear ambitions have at least taken a hit and put back 10 years at least, so any future calculations are for a different time


As a result, Israel and the U.S want to wrap this up and declare some sort of victory


Iran is rightfully angry at being attacked and it's assets damaged or destroyed and knows it has to replan


But Iran has enough of a strategic missiles stock that it can slowly and gradually keep striking Israel, day after day for months, especially if it uses it's missiles more sparingly and as Israeli interception rate is now 50-60%, it can cause Israel some major major pain


So what Israel/U.S will try to do is deter Iran and try to come to a cease fire or end of the war, by heavy bombing of Iran in the hope that Iran is deterred enough to stop striking at Israel





The war I feel is coming to an end, whatever Iran has deeper in it's underground sites, we don't know

We don't know how much damage the sites, we know about took

Can Israel make a few bombs or a few dirty bombs, YES I reckon so


But enough has been done to damage Iran, which now needs to go back to the drawing board


It all now depends on will, and how much will Iran has to keep striking and getting damaged and vice versa for Israel too

 

[F.O.X]

Pakistan Airforce has to come to Irans rescue against Israel! otherwise Israel will make Iran another Gaza ..

Not happening. period.

 

[vmro]

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The same can be said about casually assassinating many of their top commanders and wiped out their ally like nothing in the last two years.

Has that mystery being solved yet?

It's possible that they feel compromised and don't trust each other.

Here is unique case if state that is actively committing terroristic assassinations as part of national diplomacy and strategy...it's unwritten deal for almost all of the world's nations that elimination of high positioned persons is out of any interest and low blow...

And Iran was caught off guard by Trump's dirty games and some unsuspecting intelligence services like Indian...

 

[koolio]

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[maverick]

Not happening. period.

why is that ? paf cant tackle iaf ?