Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[hussain0216]

If the recent barrage of Iranian missiles, rockets, drones etc had actually hit the civilian population centers of Israel (in the absence of any defense system like Iron Dome, Arrow etc) that place would now look worse than Gaza. I do not defend Israel when it hit civilians (intentionally or otherwise), same goes for Iran or any other country on the planet.


Good luck, meanwhile they destroy one Muslim country to another; piece by piece to protect their own interests in the region.

That's what war is, you have a toxic colonial rump state inserted in your region as a hegemon

The middle east can either fight to free itself or remain constantly under occupation

 

[Bengal71]

Iranians' awareness is worthy of their suffering.



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Nobody understood this. At least provide some translation or link to the tweets so we can translate ourselves.

 

[Forsvaret]

Frankly i dont care. They hit Israel and thats fine with me. Genocide and ethnic cleansing comes to mind and you maybe showing brotherly loving concern for Israeli…

It’s not about showing "brotherly love" but a matter of principle. Attacking civilians is wrong and a war crime. There is NO justification for that, regardless of who does it.

 

[brazensword]

Game Over.

Unless Iran has an Ace up its sleeve which seems far fetched considering their strategy has fallen on its face, this is the end.

Salute to the only country and brave warriors that took the battle to the zionists land.

 

[RescueRanger]

even some random group could attack that remote lone base ...

Well this conflict is set to start a real fire in the middle-east and further destabilise the region. Here are some actor's that are being monitored in terms of middle-east threat assessments:

Who's in:





Who's Out:


Wild Card:

 

[SABRE]

Nobody understood this. At least provide some translation or link to the tweets so we can translate ourselves.

Translate of the tweet, not the pic in it: If Iran had bought Chinese weapons instead of Russian weapons, it would have just had the same configuration as Pakistan, with J-10C + PL-15 and HQ-9 and early warning aircraft. Israel probably wouldn't even have a chance to fight back, let alone the bombing of its underground nuclear facilities, because you have the HQ series of air defense systems, and its bombers wouldn't dare to fly over the nuclear bases and drop bombs blatantly. We can only say that Iran is paying the price for its contempt for us.

 

[brazensword]

The middle east can either fight to free itself or remain constantly under occupation

UAE seems to love their girly dances for foreign masters IDK.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

China's NDRC has a clear rule that China cannot import more than 20% of China's total oil imports from any country. China has already reached its limit of oil imports from Russia and will not increase the quantity of imports.

Not even in an emergency?

 

[vmro]

One is a Shia state and one is a Sunni state.

But I don't think that's the problem. Are the differences between Shia and Sunni greater than the differences between Shia and Hindu or Sunni and atheist?

India has very close relations with Israel. If Iran maintains close relations with India, then of course other countries will be suspicious of its real intentions.

It's not about some special status for Indian services in this case, simply they flied under the radar, no one cared what they were doing, no one perceived them as dangerous elements, and that is immediately golden opportunity for mossad...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Why did Iran did not develop its Air Force?

few possibilities
1) lack of vision and incompetence from iranian air force,
2) priority and money only available for ballistic weapons program
3) Tech not available to them or not offered by Russia and China…
4) Indigenous efforts, which failed when they built Sageh light weight fighter aircraft, took them 20 years.. Joint program wouldve been better like JF17

i will believe the first two to be the case.. mediocracy and lack of vision and priority for ballistic missile program.

thoughts?

respected sir . what you are missing is that Iran faced crippling sanctions and ban from acquiring any modern technology for decades. it wasn't even allowed to freely sell its oil and its trade was very limited and scrutinized. whatever it managed was through clandestine operations with moderate success. what they could do was missiles and they are the only ones who have managed to hit Israel.

West completely shut down its door on it and confiscated its money. Russia only warmed up once it faced the West directly and China was no where in the scene.
news came up of inducting Su-35 in recent times only and that is very late.

relations with Arab need another thread to rant about, books can be written on blaming each side but in the end both have suffered and both will suffer at each others expense and Israel's gain.

 

[Bengal71]

They lied and they believed their own lies ...

This is a defence forum and users here are far more knowledgeable about defence than common people. Everybody was sceptical about a defence doctrine based on BM only, No Air Force, no nukes. Everybody with a common sense said these things. Alas, the IRI government, the ayatollah and the IRGC failed to recognise this. I hope it's not too late, usually you only get one chance, getting it wrong is deadly. May Allah help Iran and the Muslims of Iran.

 

[adir-L]

80 years isn't even a tick on the clock

Israel is a colonial rump state and a extension of western hegemony

Israel needs everything to remain the same and the only certainty In life is that change is inevitable and change is what will gradually destroy Israel

Whether it's Arab or Palestinian demographics inside and around Israel
Whether it's change in the west and how they view Israel or how especially the youth of the world and west view Israel
Whether it's nations changing and planning their military doctrines to match the threat they see from Israel

Change is happening before our eyes


I will repeat, the strategy against the crusaders who were just as brutal as the Israeli was constant harassment, day in day out, year in year out wearing it down until CHÀÑGE came in the form of Saladin and Jerusalem was retaken


Their is a constant harassment of Israel
Their will be massive targeting of Israel in the aftermath, both economic all, morally, politically, legally
Israel continues to be a state accused of genocide starvation, war crimes


Even if Israel and it's Zionist shills in the west protect Israel from international law, it won't help Israel or Jews
It will just like it has destroy international law and rule based order which the world will correctly see as a tool that is used against Bron and black people whilst Israel and the west gets off Scot free

The claim that demographic change will destroy Israel is detached from reality. In fact, Israel’s demographics are increasingly working in its favor. Jewish birth rates, especially among religious and traditional communities, are rising steadily — even surpassing Arab birth rates in some areas. Add to that growing waves of Jewish immigration from unstable regions around the world, and the picture is very different from the one often portrayed.

Israel is not some Crusader state waiting to collapse — it’s a deeply rooted nation with a dynamic, resilient, and growing population. Its democracy — noisy, imperfect, but real — gives it long-term strength that no dictatorship or terror group can match.

The idea that constant harassment will wear Israel down is a fantasy. That strategy hasn’t worked for 75 years. On the contrary, it has left Palestinians in worse conditions and pushed more Arab nations toward peace with Israel.

The international legal system isn’t being destroyed by Israel — it's being discredited by regimes that use it selectively. Israel doesn’t rely on global pity or protection. It relies on its people, its economy, its innovation, and its unmatched ability to adapt to change — because yes, change is coming, and Israel is ready for it.

 

[TallGuy]

Were Natanz, Isfahan, Arak and Fardow inactive nuclear plants???

In simple words yes! they are facilities, not an active nuclear plant

Ever heard of Chernobyl disaster?

 

[Taimoor]

Attempt to provoke it by attacking civilian infrastructure and making lives of Iranian civilians miserable

Its the same playbook. Desert shield was followed by desert storm for regime change.

Iran needs to act fast, it is coming. It needs to step up its strikes against Israel critical infra.

 

[lightning f57]

If they were moved you can bet your whole months pay that US, Israel and spooks inside Iran, which we know Iran was infested with, know they were moved and very likely know many of the locations they were moved into.

They didn't know about fordor until Iran told the IAEA. So not convinced the US and Israel know, yahu is claiming now he thinks he knows where new site is. This guy and his lies are hard to believe.