Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

damn, with little to no effect. pretty alarming

Keep in mind well over half were intercepted.

Israeli strikes are in real time and more effective, Iranian ones are delayed by 5 to 10mins and can only be effective on static infrastructures. Although there were some videos of them hitting what looked like Israeli AD launch sites.

 

[RescueRanger]

No I agree I’m just throwing it out there even after the war if no actual aid or action comes to Iran it’s basically over even if Iran decides to throw fire around the region it’s not going to do anything only groups fighting still are groups in Gaza and Israel has total consent from America to starve and blockade Gaza so how long that will last is anyone’s guess

China has already stated that if the fighting were to stop it is still interested in expansion of BRI into Iran. China depends on Iran and Iran depends on China as an economic life life for the purchase of cheap oil.

 

[Forsvaret]

Israel launched a direct military attack against a nation and its critical infrastructure…

I know. This is a first time direct confrontation between those two countries, unlike fighting through proxies, which they have done so in the past.

 

[Shags101]

Hopefully Israeli state terrorism finishes soon, then people can give their analysis on what went wrong and how to fix it. For me it's not looking good for Ayatullahs and the policy makers of Iran.

Truth is it’s not looking good for the region as a whole if Iran is finished trump will just give the nod to wipe out Gaza and all its people how many hostages alive now a handful Israel doesn’t care at all if they win with Iran know the blowback for dead hostages will be minimal

 

[RescueRanger]

I know. This is a first time direct confrontation between those two countries, unlike fighting through proxies, which they have done so in the past.

That is the point that Iran is contesting - you do realise the precedent it sets right? So lets not go down the route of debating about "proxies" again please.

 

[pashtunkoum]

You simply can’t make people smart by throwing money at them. Or else the oil and gas rich countries would’ve also been the smartest of them all.

Oil and gas rich counties get a lot of stick on here but some of the gulf countries, UAE in particular, have shown incredible leadership and vision to develop their country to the level it is today.

There many other nations in the world that have insane amount of natural resources but aren’t even half as organized.

 

[Ak01]

Keep in mind well over half were intercepted.

Israeli strikes are in real time and more effective, Iranian ones are delayed by 5 to 10mins and can only be effective on static infrastructures. Although there were some videos of them hitting what looked like Israeli AD launch sites.

some, but nothing to great effect id say. None hitting key sites like AB's etc either. Pretty shocking

 

[Forsvaret]

Oil and gas rich counties get a lot of stick on here but some of the gulf countries, UAE in particular, have shown incredible leadership and vision to develop their country to the level it is today.

Cannot be said better

 

[Shags101]

China has already stated that if the fighting were to stop it is still interested in expansion of BRI into Iran. China depends on Iran and Iran depends on China as an economic life life for the purchase of cheap oil.

Truth is if Iran loses in week or year or whatever happens in between if they lose china is out and many Iranian leaders are out as well they will either go to weak reformers who will beg for America to come or even a more severe hardliner who will come and wipe out the whole deck

 

[RescueRanger]

Live from NATO Conference:

NATO chief: Iran must not develop nuclear weapon​

 

[F.O.X]

Iran would be wise to de-escalate for now and focus on bringing China more deeply into its economic orbit , particularly through the BRI. By encouraging significant Chinese investment and infrastructure development, Iran can create long-term strategic leverage and economic stability. Once China has substantial interests on the ground, Iran can begin the process of rebuilding its regional power but this time with the backing of a major global partner. Aligning with Beijing not only brings much-needed capital and technology, but also adds a layer of geopolitical deterrence. In today’s world, quiet strength built through alliances and economic depth often outweighs short-term battlefield bravado.

 

[PakAl]

Sir,

China will not get involved - no nation will get involved. That is just the plain truth.

I have mentioned this before. Why should China or any other nation get directly involved, did Iran have a treaty or close military defence relations with anyone, as far as we know Iran was close to Russia and India and both are quiet, so noone else will come. If only before this war Iran changed its policies which aligned with China and its own policy, then due to close relations the west would have known to not mess with Iran. For example Iran claims death to the Usa and Israel, this means no nation will sign defence treaty since they themselves don't share this opinion, also the proxies problem, arab GCC are not happy and this stops anyone getting close to Iran since they don't want this extra baggage. Nations sign defence treaties when their vision of the world aligns, when they listen to each other and reach an understanding.

I pray this conflicts ends and Iran has a change of heart, they must build new alliances and don't fall for the trap ever again, speak and make moves according to its strength.

 

[Shags101]

Live from NATO Conference:

NATO chief: Iran must not develop nuclear weapon​

…..trump now has a bunch of yes men and women no one that will even disagree in private

 

[Forsvaret]

That is the point that Iran is contesting - you do realise the precedent it sets right?

Yepp. The precedent was already set when Israel bombed and destroyed the nuclear reactor in Iraq (1981) and Syria (2007) following their Begin Doctrine.

 

[RescueRanger]

Truth is if Iran loses in week or year or whatever happens in between if they lose china is out and many Iranian leaders are out as well they will either go to weak reformers who will beg for America to come or even a more severe hardliner who will come and wipe out the whole deck

The loss of the regime will be a serious blow for China.