Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Awesome. Absolutely awesome. In their ugly faces. All hail Iran.

Let's get the IPC pipeline going. Let's trade and setup defence deals. We need each other more than ever. Not only do I want Pakistan Iran relations to prosper. I wants Pakistan, Iran and China relations to prosper.

Strange things are happening in that part of the world. Old narratives are dying giving birth to new narratives....

 

[That_Guy]

Statement from the CIA director

You mean the CIA director that's a Trump appointee and loyalist, and thus won't contradict him in any capacity? That CIA director?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am not sure how well Turkish-Irani Ties are but in current context hopefully there is some positive warming of ties

I think Turkey-Azerbaijan vs Armenia ties hinder Iran's growth with Turkey/Azerbaijan

But I may be incorrect as my knowledge is a bit limited on Turkey-Azerbaijan vs Iran relations

 

[mangekyo]

Almost 12,000 Israelis were made homeless by Iran’s missiles, and thousands more face economic collapse. Ogen is delivering urgent financial relief and long-term recovery tools.

WTF...

Told you guys, shocking videos have started to show up. I’m telling you, the damages are insane, it’s like Gaza.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Told you guys, shocking videos have started to show up. I’m telling you, the damages are insane, it’s like Gaza.

Well Pakistan's position has always been 2 state solution for Israel/Palestine respect the 2 state solution. Move forward toward it. The hindrance has always been from Netinyaho's side , so the war Israel faced was direct consequence from those decisions

• The destroyed infrastructure in Israel of course it is due to past bad decisions from Israel's controlling body, which caused war to expand into Palestine and beyond past 2 years
• As People of world it is common to understand the loss , there is no joy in destruction of people's life it's not how world operates, we have seen lives destroyed in Syria , Libya and Palestine before as well, all those lives would not be lost if 2 state solution was rolled out 25 years ago in year 2000. After 1996 agreement (Done Under Bill Clinton's watch obviously he had trouble with Impeachment right after)

Turkey-Pakistan-Iran -China - Russia-North Korea all have a very common view on 2 state solution for Palestine, also many nations in Europe (Spain, Ireland, Scotland etc, Italy , may be France too etc ) and Africa. Asia mostly supports Palestine (Reasonable Support in South Korea and Japan) . A reasonable relation with Israel can happen if it implements 2 state solution and start acting like normal country

Pakistan does acknowledge Genocide in Gaza past 1.5 years, in accordance with United Nation findings , which has to get looked after according to International Court of Justice, court decisions

 

[PakAl]

It won’t be a rapid upgrade. Training, integration, and operationalization will take time. Iran will also need to revise its military doctrine accordingly. Still, it’s better to begin now than never. The sooner the process starts, the sooner results can be achieved.

One benefit of airforce is iranian planes will be fighting israelis in own sky and over Iraq etc, yes likely they will be blown out of the skies but by that time Iran will have 5000 missiles ready to be fired at Israel. Iran just needs to make sure traitors within are dealt with, they caused big harm to Iran, especially how Israel was able to form a base inside iran to launch drones.

 

[mangekyo]

I am not sure how well Turkish-Irani Ties are but in current context hopefully there is some positive warming of ties

I think Turkey-Azerbaijan vs Armenia ties hinder Iran's growth with Turkey/Azerbaijan

But I may be incorrect as my knowledge is a bit limited on Turkey-Azerbaijan vs Iran relations

It’s bad. Turkey fought us in Syria to install Al Qaida, they are stopping us from sending arms to Hamas and Hezbollah. They are actively supporting Azerbaijan which is a Mossad camp. They are also trying to instigate separatism through exporting pan-Turkish ideas. And they have an eye on Iraq too. But on the surface, relations are normal

 

[Adam Barfy]

One benefit of airforce is iranian planes will be fighting israelis in own sky and over Iraq etc, yes likely they will be blown out of the skies but by that time Iran will have 5000 missiles ready to be fired at Israel. Iran just needs to make sure traitors within are dealt with, they caused big harm to Iran, especially how Israel was able to form a base inside iran to launch drones.

Irans got plenty of missiles. But it lacks launchers as many were destroyed by drone & airstrikes.

I guess these will be built & ordered ASAP

 

[Type59]

Hope Egypt learns from this conflict. Their F-16s lack Amraams and Rafale jets lack meteor missiles. They have no ballistic and cruise missile programs.

 

[PakAl]

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yes Artesh is regular army and IRGC is separate army designed to protect the Revolution and which has been favoured over the Artesh and is now stronger than Artesh

So the Artesh is the one with the tanks, airforce and navy, and IRGC has the generals, rockets and missile arsenal.

 

[mangekyo]

Irans got plenty of missiles. But it lacks launchers as many were destroyed by drone & airstrikes.

I guess these will be built & ordered ASAP

It’s difficult to protect TELS from F35s launching ALBM from Iraq without an airforce. But we need SHORAD to counter drone threat from inside. We have missile 358, but I didn’t see it once in the war. ATGM launched from inside can only be deterred with a competent intelligence force. Even if we replace all the TELs, they are easy for Israel to destroy.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It’s bad. Turkey fought us in Syria to install Al Qaida, they are stopping us from sending arms to Hamas and Hezbollah. They are actively supporting Azerbaijan which is a Mossad camp. They are also trying to instigate separatism through exporting pan-Turkish ideas. And they have an eye on Iraq too. But on the surface, relations are normal

The issue between Turkey and Iran will have to get sorted out
Hopefully the Leadership in Iran will re-approach Turkey and Azerbaijan with new perspective

Better ties between Turkey-Iran , including Azerbaijan , will have to get done for making the region more secure

All the way to Egypt

As a Pakistani I view Iran-Turkey-Egypt , 3 nations with very similar demographic and very strong Middle Class , and very similar food etc
Very Education Human Resource. So there is chance to develop solid ties for future

 

[mangekyo]

The issue between Turkey and Iran will have to get sorted out
Hopefully the Leadership in Iran will re-approach Turkey and Azerbaijan with new perspective

Turkey is a NATO country and have chosen who’s side its on. Let’s not forget who supplied Israel with all its energy needs during the genocide. It’s better we accept Turkey is against us and not with us

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

We have to end these rats

 

[Kyussis]

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So the Artesh is the one with the tanks, airforce and navy, and IRGC has the generals, rockets and missile arsenal.

The IRGC has its own ground forces, Navy and aerospace force.