Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Nuffle]

The threat from DPRK is conventional not nuclear. Seoul is within targeting range of thousands of heavy artillery effectively concealed inside solid rock outposts in the surrounding mountains largely immune from air strikes. Seoul will be reduced to rubble in a matter of hours in case of hostilities. Until the USA or South Korea regains control of those mountains the threat to Seoul and the thousands of western troops elsewhere on the border will remain. That will happen if North Korea collapses economically due to sanctions . At this point this doesn't seem likely given the fact that both Russia and China are supporting the DPRK
The North Korean nuclear weapons are for optics and domestic consumption only. They pose no threat to any country including South Korea since all North Korean missiles can be intercepted. The performance of North Korean missiles in Ukraine showed how primitive these were.

Artillery can be suppressed, especially considering the length of the border between DPRK and ROK. In reality, the A-10s in the ROK were precisely to suppress any KPA artillery pieces.

 

[vmro]

But Khamenei is
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This particular event was wise, why to make favor for Bibi's agenda of war between usa and Iran...

 

[Meengla]

If Khamenei doesn't have the veto power and everything is left for the government to decide, then soon enough they will move towards dysfunctional and corrupt democracies we have in some parts of the Islamic world. Kanemenei here as a religious leader acts as the guardian.

Collective wisdom is always better. What IF Khamenei itself is compromised in some ways? Then only one person would be the ultimate arbitrator of right or wrong choices. There needs to be checks and balances on any supreme leader's power, regardless of the country. Even in America, while Trump is almost a dictator, there ARE still checks on him through the courts and the Congress. It is said that in his final days in office after losing the 2020 election, Trump was so desperate to stay in power that he was contemplating starting a war against China. It took senior Congressional leadership and Pentagon to step in and put a lid on that.

 

[BigMela2onin]

We don’t understand what validation yous after bhai. Russia has 6000 nuclear warheads. 1700 of them are mounted on ICBMs/IRBMs. Yet they are attacked daily by a US/Nato proxy.

Putin and his oligarchs are gorbachevite cucks who much like Iranian reformists dream of being western oligarchs. They are weak and don't respond appropriately to attacks due to this. Nukes are irrelevant.

 

[vmro]

Neither China nor Russia is thinking about anything other than appeasing the United States; they will never sell useful weapons to Iran.
North Korea was in the same position. However, without making excuses, they have developed everything themselves, from nuclear weapons to giant drones and large submarines. At the same time, they have placed all their bases underground. Despite being a poor, small country with no resources and a population of only 20 million.
Iran lacks only the resolve of its leaders.
That is the root cause of all its weakness.

Iranian contribution to their nuclear program and their contribution to Iranian missile programs is crucial for both...

 

[Nuffle]

Yes, Iran threatens Israel. DPRK threatens nobody.

Who was it a threat to, man? They had no real deployment or force projection capabilities beyond their missile force.

And yes, the DPRK threatens Japan and the ROK daily, including by launching missiles over Japanese airspace.

 

[ShapurII]

Your mistake is that you think we can establish a buffer over Iraq. No we can't because American, French and British airforce are present there.

We can do what you suggest, but its not possible before razing US bases in Qatar, Turkey and Bahrain to the ground. Americans guide USN's air operations from those countries.

Your second mistake is that you think it's only Israeli airforce. Nope, Americans and Europeans combined can fly 250+ jets over Iraq simultaneously.
Israel is just front line and a garrison of west.

Did the US, the UK or France participate in the aerial campaigns of the Israeli Air Force against us? Other than that, don't you guys always boast about your response to a NATO coalition against us by targeting every oil and gas installations in the region?

Do not fool yourself. The US helped Israel only when it came to the targeting of Fordow with GBU-57 bunker busters and interception of our missiles and drones. Other than that, Israel was completely alone in this war and the Israeli Air Force still managed to enjoy air superiority over Iran. A decent air force would've deterred this war completely.

Don't deceive yourself by false thoughts. We don't mass produce Kowsar because we don't want it.

We couldn't even build 5 Kowsar jets without cannibalizing old F-5s in our inventory. We produced Yasin but still had to purchase Yak-130 from Russia. Iran does not have the capability to produce a modern jet fighter. It's just as simple as that.

Even Sukhoi import was just a fill the gap game. We ďont even want mass imported items. Because of the economic burden. Russia wants to throw billions worth garbages at us and we refuse it. That's why they don't give us the fill the gap opportunity. Look at Russian perspective from a businessman's pov. They want to earn billions, we don't allow it.

But the economic burden of wasting 50 billion dollars on groups like Hamas, Hezbollah or in Syria is fine, right? lol The same Syrian tin-pot dictator that ran away like a coward the moment that Putin gave him shelter in Moscow?

The rest is Israeli claims. Don't believe what comes out of their filthy mouth.

If something seems reasonable and adds up, why not? How do you think Israel managed to hit over over 100 targets dispersed over 50 locations throughout Iran? We know for a fact that the IAF hit the IRIB headquarter.

Then we have to drop mass production and go for the next generation to possess the edge. We are a sanctioned economy, we need something that gets the job done not whatever we can make or import.

Yes, we are a sanctioned country. We need to stop spending our money on Arabs and spend it on our air force instead. It will save us a lot of trouble.

 

[mangekyo]

There's absolutely no proof that Azerbaijan was involved in this war. I get that there's a psychological urge to blame someone, but this has turned into pure propaganda.

As friendly as Baku is with Israel, Aliyev wouldn't do anything to jeopardize his hold on power. His whole approach to both domestic and international issues revolves around this key idea.

Launching drone strikes against Iran just to please Netanyahu? Not a chance. Direct your frustration towards the actual individuals in the Iranian government whose failures have dragged the country down in multiple ways.

Always remember, you can't say Azərbaycan without Türkiye and vice versa.

Focus on what matters right now. Build the bomb or get some sort of a deal that is good for the country, everything else is just waste of time.

Are you denying you were sending oil to Israel throughout the entire genocide, or just that Azerbaijan participated in the drone strikes?

 

[Nuffle]

And people here think Su-35s will be helpful in stopping Mach-3 aero ballistic missile volleys which are parabolic in trajectory…….

Russia gets attacked daily by scalps and Israeli type rampage/ blue horizons and hammers, and Su-35’s are totally useless.

Let me get this straight:

So nuclear weapons are useless;

Fighters are useless;

What could Iran and other countries do following your wise advice to deter and have conventional capacity to defend themselves?

Explain it to us, armchair!!!

 

[vmro]

Are you denying you were sending oil to Israel throughout the entire genocide, or just that Azerbaijan participated in the drone strikes?

Oil is already known fact, but involvement in direct destructive operation against Iran, if it's true, must be adequate addressed by Iran...they went too far...

 

[Lulldapull]

Who was it a threat to, man? They had no real deployment or force projection capabilities beyond their missile force.

And yes, the DPRK threatens Japan and the ROK daily, including by launching missiles over Japanese airspace.

Irans sworn Israel’s destruction. And it proved its missile and drone capabilities.

DPRK has done none of that. Nobody takes the DPRK seriously.

I believe we’re all fairly confident on that assessment.

 

[Meengla]

In Urdu. Trump gave greenlight to Israel if Iran start nuclear program and assassinate Ali Khomenai. ......................But Israel-US claim nuclear program is now fully destroyed .......This is lies Trump veto Khomenai assassinate plan, it was approved by Trump administration. But seems Khomenai security few steps ahead of Mossad.

You can't trust a word either Trump or Netanyahu say. Not a W.O.R.D!

 

[Persian Gulf]

this appears to be the target area of the Qasem Basir missile

 

[ShapurII]

Let me get this straight:

So nuclear weapons are useless;

Fighters are useless;

What could Iran and other countries do following your wise advice to deter and have conventional capacity to defend themselves?

Explain it to us, armchair!!!

Obviously, Hamas, Hezbollah, prayer to Allah (!), faith and firing 10-30 missiles per day while the enemy is targeting your launchers are the ultimate deterrence according to the Grand Ayatollah.
Nukes and jet fighters are useless. And the US has lost every war they have fought since WWII!

 

[Lulldapull]

Let me get this straight:

So nuclear weapons are useless;

Fighters are useless;

What could Iran and other countries do following your wise advice to deter and have conventional capacity to defend themselves?

Explain it to us, armchair!!!

What could we do last month when subjected to a similar attack from India? And desperately tried retaliation with Chinese weaponry?

How did that go for us?