Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[mangekyo]

Are the stories about new assassinations today true?

 

[ShapurII]

Back in the days when China developed its nukes, not many in schools. They were pretty much all in the nuke program.

I'm not sure if you understood me. Most of these people are not making nuclear weapons. They have no ties with Iran's nuclear program. They just teach nuclear physics. Do you see the difference?

 

[nang2]

Before the ceasefire Netanjahu said "We won't get dragged into a war of attrition against Iran."

So Iran must still maintain substantial capabilities and arsenals.

What would be the point if Iran never gives Israel some real taste of the war of attrition?

 

[nang2]

I'm not sure if you understood me. Most of these people are not making nuclear weapons. They have no ties with Iran's nuclear program. They just teach nuclear physics. Do you see the difference?

Yeah, but they are potentials. If you couldn't get to the main players, wipe out the bench.

 

[Watandar]

The issue is that it's the worst possible moment to purchase and deploy new systems. I'm convinced that not even China is going to sell them right now.



Why do you think like that? Lebanon was wealthy, cosmopolitan and very modern back in the day - and look at it right now. It's almost a failed nation, dissolving every day, piece by piece. Partly due to Israel, partly due to Iranian involvement which is often overlooked by our Pakistani friends. You don't understand how easy it is to deconstruct a society and dismantle the state when the established regime has no allies, no friends who're willing to take on some risk but many enemies within its borders.

I bet you my bottom dollar that Israel will try to play the race card inciting communal violence within the Iranian society. Kurdish groups are literally crying for assistance from Israel - openly on social media.

Lebanese civil war pitted Christian v Muslim alongwith Arab v Druze and involved sectarianism as well. All this began in mid 1970s and continued till 1990s. One hard lesson learned by Lebanese was not to fight each other again for sake of foreigners and you saw evidence of that recent war between Hezbollah and Israel, where the Israelis again tried their best to turn Christians v Muslims.

 

[ShapurII]

Yeah, but they are potentials. If you couldn't get to the main players, wipe out the bench.

Exactly. The purpose of Israel is to stop nuclear physics research in Iran. It wants to make it such a hot, high risk subject that nobody would like to study nuclear physics.

We cannot provide top security to university professors. At least we didn't do so before. They were just regular people like other professors that went to the university and teach. We need to provide them with additional layers of security, I think.

 

[vmro]

I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about or what you are saying. And no idea how any of your comments relate to my original point that I made and you replied to; the old heads currently running Iran are incompetent and complacent, for Iran to do better and defend itself against future zionist attacks they need to be replaced with younger, more competent, more invigorated and motivated leaders that are better suited to handle the Israeli threats. Please keep your personal feeling, emotions, introspections, dissertations and whatever other blabbering you have to yourself, it has nothing to do with anything we are discussing here.

Ok, I will tell you my opinion about ongoing process and possible consequences... After dismantled Axis and last events, we can conclude that zionists inflicted major, maybe fatal blow to IR... Islamic Republic can hardly find excuse to rising Iranian nationalism, when in the end Iran was left to clash with Israelis toe-to-toe alone...

I am not fully agree that IR was historical failure for Iranian nation, but it would be wise for Iran to completely get out of those Arabian areas, that are accusing Iran for their own limitations...

Probably some preparation for unavoidable reforms in Iran are going on behind the scenes, but any forcefully changes of Khamenei will be disastrous for Iran...redefining of doctrine should be done naturally, and after closing any possibility of aggression by zionists ..

 

[ShapurII]

these are older guys who worked on the program 20+ years ago

if you don't have a program to build nuclear weapons you can't keep all these professors in a bunker for half their life

if the decision is made, the story is different

This is one of our insanities again. This whole darn thing has taken us 30 years. Obviously, hiding confidential information and keeping your scientists safe for 30 f*cking years is a nightmare.

 

[nang2]

This is one of our insanities again. This whole darn thing has taken us 30 years. Obviously, hiding confidential information and keeping your scientists safe for 30 f*cking years is a nightmare.

The fact that it has taken 30 years just shows the inherent issue of the policy itself. Iran doesn't seem to be serious about it. It only flirts with the idea.

 

[Homajon]

What would be the point if Iran never gives Israel some real taste of the war of attrition?

I'm just an average guy on the Internet, I have no insights into Iranian decision making, I don't know any secrets, so I don't know why Iran does what it does...

 

[ShapurII]

The fact that it has taken 30 years just shows the inherent issue of the policy itself. Iran doesn't seem to be serious about it. It only flirts with the idea.

I can't disagree with that. I think the system is so compromised that it doesn't even dare to go against things dictated to them.

 

[nang2]

I'm just an average guy on the Internet, I have no insights into Iranian decision making, I don't know any secrets, so I don't know why Iran does what it does...

I guess few really knows because it just defies all common senses.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Trump is actually easy to manipulate. The only ones easier to manipulate are the retards running IR. He, much like Araghchi and co, takes everything at face value.

So the ceasefire fire didn't have any benefit for Iran yet they agreed anyways.

No, the ceasefire is good for Iran provided it can identify the terrorist Mossad agents in its midst, it can fix the air defense issue , and it can re-organize its forces for the next battle.

 

[Homajon]

I guess few really knows because it just defies all common senses.

I don't see no point in guessing why the different players act the way they do, we normal people have no insights, so its just a waste of time and energy...

 

[Hakwa Nadro]

82% agreed with the attacks, I think Iran should consider them all as targets and occupiers.

Next attack Iran should go for the bunkers they are hiding in.